Talk:The American Israelite

The American Israelite has been listed as one of the Social sciences and society good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
August 20, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed
October 20, 2024	Good article reassessment	Kept

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 18, 2010.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that The American Israelite, published in Cincinnati since 1854, helped advance American Reform Judaism and is the oldest English-language Jewish newspaper still circulated in the United States?

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The American Israelite/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 16:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this article shortly. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 16:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the issues I found:

"It was also among the first Jewish publications in the whole country." I'd take out 'whole', not sure why but reads better without it to me.
"The newspaper's motto was from the start, and still is, יהי אור" I'd simplify it to just 'The newspaper's motto is יהי אור'.
"Leo Wise, who had become business manager for the paper in 1975," I presume you mean 1875 here.
"Rabbi Wise remained active on the paper until his death on March 26, 1900,[6][8] in fact writing an editorial for it just a few days before." I'd take out in fact, these handful of modifiers seem to take away from the article rather than help it.

I'll put the article on hold and will pass it when the issues are fixed. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 03:01, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the review. I've made changes per the first, third, and fourth comments. On the second, I'd like some way to indicate that this has been the motto from the start and still is today. I don't think your wording necessarily conveys that. Can you think of another re-wording? Another possibility is to add 'motto' as a field to the newspaper infobox. That would get across that it still is the motto, and the article text's wording could be reduced to 'From the start, the newspaper's motto was יהי אור'. I've proposed this change at Template talk:Infobox newspaper. Let me know what you think ... Wasted Time R (talk) 12:29, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I'm not quite getting still why having that 'from the start' note is important, but I won't worry myself about it, it's not a big deal. Everything else looks good, so I'll pass the article. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 16:38, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:

There is uncited text in the article, including three paragraphs.
The lead does not summarise all major aspects of the article.
There is no information about the paper's political leanings, writing style, or other critical commentary.

Is anyone interested in addressing these concerns, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 04:59, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

The American Israelite

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Result: No consensus. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article does not have information about its writing style, political leanings or other critical commentary. The lead does not summarise all major aspects of the article, and the "Subsequent history" has many short paragraphs, which should be reformatted into longer paragraphs. Z1720 (talk) 23:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Re point 1, I looked at the time of your "GA concerns" Talk page post on this but didn't find anything solid about writing style or critical commentary. As for political leanings, they are evident throughout the article – the paper was in favor of the growth and connectedness of Reform Judiasm, in favor of civil and religious rights for Jews, in favor of a creation of an educational institution (that became Hebrew Union College), and against the newly formed Zionist movement.

Re point 2, I added a bit to the lede following your "GA concerns" mention of this. At this point I don't know which specific 'major aspects' you now consider to be missing from the lede.

Re point 3, if you look in mobile view, those paragraphs aren't that choppy, and paragraph grouping is a little subjective to begin with. But you, or anyone else who looks at this GAR, is welcome to arrange them the way you think is an improvement. In particular, I suppose the 3rd, 4th, and 5th paragraphs could be combined into one, although that pulls some disparate material in one clump. Others may think the 1st and 2nd belong together, but I think publisher and editor Segal is important enough to warrant his own paragraph.

Note that I did fix the "GA concerns" item about the three uncited paragraphs at the time. Wasted Time R (talk) 00:49, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.