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King Hussein of Jordan, wooed American Lisa Halaby by singing "Take a chance on me" to her. After accepting his proposal, she changed her name to Noor Al Hussein. (Light of Hussein) http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ssfc0005/A%20Light%20in%20the%20Desert.html (A review of Queen Noor's autobiography "Leap of Faith: Memoirs of an Unexpected Life".) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bizzybody (talk • contribs) 08:36, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:18, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:39, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where are these moronic people?

Who are the morons who think this song is "disco"? Dancing Queen is disco, this is NOT! Retro Agnostic (talk) 11:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Uk US certifications

Gold - 500,000 in UK BPI Gold - 1,000,000 in US RIAA Coachtripfan (talk) 13:44, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Updates

Added sources and performed a copyedit. Removed the A teens promo single as it did not chart and was unsourced. Karst (talk) 14:35, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATED UK SALES

Now 950,000

Same link. It is updated Coachtripfan (talk) 07:26, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Coachtripfan: Per that source, pure sales are 882,000, 950,000 are "chart sales". It is customary to list only the former. --Muhandes (talk) 13:46, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually UK sales since 2014 have included streams included into sales equivalents.

If you exclude this you have to exclude ALL Official Chart statistics...and Soundscan and the BPI and RIAA.

All use streaming for charts and certifications. Be better informed! Coachtripfan (talk) 17:49, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care one way or another, I just told you what I believe to be customary. WP:BOLD? --Muhandes (talk) 21:26, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What you believe to be customary.

All sales used by the OCC, Soundscan, BPI and RIAA use sales equivalence based on streaning. It is the new normal. Coachtripfan (talk) 17:24, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We don't count stream-equivalent sales as actual sales. It's not just what Muhandes believes to be customary, it's what Wikipedia, by precedent, does. Yet again, you don't know the way things work around here. Is there any ABBA song talk page where you're not complaining about a chart? Good God. Ss112 00:18, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Official Charts Company, BPI, Soundscan and RIAA all use stream equivalent sales for charts and certifications.

There is a blur between the two.

You are now stalking me on Wikipedia. Stop this. Coachtripfan (talk) 07:14, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So can I delete UK/US sales and certifications for Adele, Ed Sheeran, Drake and all recent artists as sales figures include STREAM EQUIVALENT. All of them. I am putting in an official complaint about you.

Coachtripfan (talk) 07:22, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you the only user interested in ABBA on Wikipedia? Are you the only user allowed to edit ABBA topics now? Amazing! Since when? I wasn't aware of this. Anyway: Certifications are not and have never indicated sales. Certifications include stream-equivalent sales, which is fine—that's up to the certifying body of each country to include them. However, you will notice chart publications like Billboard make clear to use the word "units" for figures that include both sales and streams. Units are not entirely sales and cannot be claimed as such. If any figure that is in a section or column explicitly labelled "sales" includes streams (and is not specified as "pure sales"), you bet you're within your rights to remove them if they include streams. Ss112 08:09, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ss112

You CANNOT answer the point that Wikipedia DOES use Sales Equivalents. Any post 2014ish sales from the US or UK includes them. New sales since the.

All these certifications include sales equivalent.

I have reported you to the Administrators for your editing, rudeness and stalking. Coachtripfan (talk) 08:10, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just did answer it. You're conflating certifications and sales. Certifications are not sales, so the fact that certifications include streams is irrelevant. When something is explicitly called "pure sales", that is the figure we use in sections and columns explicitly labelled "sales". If we're not sure if a claimed sales figure includes streams, we should not use it. I've seen your AN thread, I've replied there, and you went there over what is essentially a content dispute. Administrators are not interested in content disputes. Also, I created I Still Have Faith in You and Voyage (ABBA album) and have been active on ABBA-related articles for years. You weren't "stalked" here, and even if that were the case, editors should be keeping an eye on for your dogged refusal to let issues go and to stop harping on the same point you've been disproven on on other articles. You are a prime example of WP:NOTGETTINGIT. Ss112 08:29, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The section is certified units/sales. There is NO "pure sales" section for any single or album by any artist. This is Your interpretation. You have lost the argument.

Certifications include streams yet are used. This is relevant. You FAIL TO RESPOND that ALL BPI or RIAA certications include streams.

Yep. Just a conincidence you stumbled across my Take a Chance on Me edit.

Stop salking. And allow OFFICIAL CHART COMPANY sales. There is NOTHING IN wikipedia about pure or actual sales.

Coachtripfan (talk) 08:55, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have literally acknowledged twice that certifications include streams. We're talking about sales figures. I don't understand why you continue to talk about certifications. Sales figures should not include streaming figures where possible. This isn't "my interpretation", music editors all over Wikipedia try to avoid anything that is not explicitly called "pure sales", because pure sales are actual copies sold. Streams do not equate to copies, digital or physical, sold, even if they are converted into a units figure. You appear to have very few edits outside of ABBA's articles, so I wouldn't expect you to know what happens elsewhere on Wikipedia in terms of inclusion of sales or not. You refer to Adele (who hasn't even had an album out in six years, and 2015 was just before streaming really took over, so she/her sales are irrelevant), Ed Sheeran and Drake. Drake and Ed Sheeran's discography pages do not include sales figures with streams in them, so what argument you think you're raising here I have no idea. As I have outlined, most publications do not refer to stream-inclusive figures as sales. Billboard differentiates said figures as "units".

Anyway, what's "salking"? No idea what that is. By the way: I never claimed it was coincidence I "stumbled" upon your edit here. Quite clearly I looked at your contributions. I did so to keep track of the three talk pages you've spread your rants across, then noticed this edit where you're confusing stream-inclusive figures for sales with another user. I'm well within my rights to edit this article to revert you, especially now that you've proven you are a problem user considering an administrator has protected an article so you couldn't edit it logged out and has warned you about further disruption. Which you promptly ignored when you restored your edits to I Still Have Faith in You twice. So you're well overdue for a block for disruption at this point. Ss112 09:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ss112 I have put in a formal complaint and would appreciate you do not contact me again. Coachtripfan (talk) 08:57, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are on an article talk page. It is a public forum, not your user talk page, and you do not get to tell someone to leave you alone here. Also, you just replied to me multiple times; I have a right to reply. If you continue to edit war on any article, especially ones I created and have watchlisted, I certainly will be "contacting you". Better yet, I will ask an admin to because you're a timesink. I have repeated the same things to you multiple times over and you still refuse to acknowledge I've done so and go back around in circles. I don't know how you've been allowed to rant on ABBA article talk pages for years without attracting more attention. Ss112 09:49, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You can ask people to not contact you on your personal user TALKPAGE, but you absolutely cannot say that about an article talk page, especially in regards to a situation where you're already well aware that both of you have been actively editing the article. Sergecross73 msg me 11:34, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vocals

Whoever keeps trying to re-edit the 'Personnel' section to state Agnetha is on sole lead vocals for this song, please desist. 'Take A Chance On Me' has always been regarded as a joint lead vocal song and this is confirmed by the much respected ABBA Omnibus site. It is quite clear. The first 20 seconds is the acapella opening featuring all four members. It then has 27 seconds of the chorus with both Agnetha and Anni-Frid. The two women then sing the first verse up to 1 min 4 seconds. It is only then that Agnetha sings the first of two short 'bridge' sections of 12 seconds each. Even these are both intersected by 'It's Magic !' by both voices. There are different criteria that can be used when judging who is on lead vocals of any particular song. Who sings the opening lines and who sings the verses. In this case, both women quite clearly start the song with the men providing accompaniment. Both women sing all the verses and all the choruses. That more than enough made it a joint lead vocal. Virtually every ABBA fan recognises it so. But there's always one. http://www.abbaomnibus.net/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bovis Messroom (talk • contribs) 00:30, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Any more uncited editing of this section will result in the perpetrator being reported to the administrators as in violation of Wikipedia stipulations. Wikipedia strives to give factual information, corroborated by reliable and respected sources. Not be the playground of mischief makers presenting false info as facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bovis Messroom (talk • contribs) 02:30, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UK Physical certification

GOLD - 500 0000

BPI.CO.UK Coachtripfan (talk) 16:28, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]