Talk:Tailors' Hall
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DYK views
[edit]Article had 3792 views over baseline during its Did-You-Know presence on the Main Page, as of end-of-day yesterday, perhaps more to come when today is compiled. Nice article, though surely a good picture of the building itself could be found, given its prominence, and an interior shot? 37.190.57.218 (talk) 14:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Good to know, and 3.8k views over 12 hours shows a decent level of interest (I believe the threshold for permanent logging is 5k). Thanks for the information. SeoR (talk) 12:57, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Last survivor?
[edit]Merchants Hall on Wellinton Quay also still stands so it isn't the last surviving guildhall.Financefactz (talk) 10:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Financefactz, the sources all describe it as such, perhaps because of the disruption of the Merchants' Hall. I will look into this further. The Merchants' Arch facility is mentioned in the article, but in passing. SeoR (talk) 10:25, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi again, Financefactz, just to mention - I will modify the wording. It seems there is some "greyness" about this, but also perhaps we hit the issue of journalistic sources sometimes not digging in fully and using the nice simple tagline. It looks like Merchant's Hall is sometimes dismissed as "former" because it was more modified (though it was saved from "superpub" fate), or because it had a short-ish life, or was not such a distinct building - but I tend to agree, it qualifies as surviving in some way. And some sources see some remnant of at least one other guildhouse, though even more disrupted. So let's just avoid the "last surviving" designation. SeoR (talk) 10:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- And to close this, having read around, I can see a clear need for an article on the guilds of Dublin (the 25 Companies, as they were at peak), and their (few) halls, etc. Not enough for an article on each, though a few have some coverage already, but they were such forces in the city's history that they should be here. SeoR (talk) 11:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi again, Financefactz, just to mention - I will modify the wording. It seems there is some "greyness" about this, but also perhaps we hit the issue of journalistic sources sometimes not digging in fully and using the nice simple tagline. It looks like Merchant's Hall is sometimes dismissed as "former" because it was more modified (though it was saved from "superpub" fate), or because it had a short-ish life, or was not such a distinct building - but I tend to agree, it qualifies as surviving in some way. And some sources see some remnant of at least one other guildhouse, though even more disrupted. So let's just avoid the "last surviving" designation. SeoR (talk) 10:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
See details here.[1] (talk) 15:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi SeoR, not as difficult to draft up a stub as I thought - Guilds of the City of Dublin. Financefactz (talk) 20:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Financefactz, great work - I'll add some points too. SeoR (talk) 20:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Evrik (talk) 00:17, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
... that the Tailors' Hall, a surviving guildhall of Dublin, also hosted the guilds of shoemakers, hosiery makers, smiths, and barber-surgeons, as well as Freemasons, Baptists and the Legion of Mary?Source: Dixon, F. E. (1969). The Dublin Tailors and Their Hall (2nd ed.). Dublin, Ireland: The Tailors' Hall Fund - ...other Guilds hired the Hall for their meetings: ..Barber-surgeons .. Hosiers .. Shoemakers and Smiths ...Methodists' gatherings.. The Grand Lodge of Freemasons met there regularly from 1755 to 1818 .. A Congregation of Baptists rented it .. the Legion of Mary was granted the use of the Tailors' HallALT1:... that Tailors' Hall, a surviving guildhall of Dublin, hosted fencing and dancing classes, the United Irishmen and a British Army garrison, Dublin City Council and an insolvency court? Source: Dixon, F. E. (1969). The Dublin Tailors and Their Hall (2nd ed.). Dublin, Ireland: The Tailors' Hall Fund- ALT2:... that Tailors' Hall, a surviving guildhall of Dublin, hosted fencing and dancing classes, the United Irishmen and a British Army garrison, Dublin Corporation and an insolvency court? Source: Dixon, F. E. (1969). The Dublin Tailors and Their Hall (2nd ed.). Dublin, Ireland: The Tailors' Hall Fund
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Arik_Brauer
- Comment: 7th nomination, 2nd of 3 QPQs applied
Created by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 23:59, 11 February 2021 (UTC).
- New enough and long enough. QPQ present. AGF on the offline Dixon source which is amply cited throughout the text. ALT0 is approved, but I do not see mention of Dublin City Council in the text, @SeoR:. No textual issues I can see. ALT0 is approved; ALT1 will be if the City Council is mentioned in the article body. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:45, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie:, many thanks for the prompt and clear review. I have added ALT2, with "Dublin Corporation" instead of "Dublin City Council" - essentially the same authority, the Corporation name is the one in the references used. SeoR (talk) 20:09, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- ALT2 is now approved. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:09, 13 February 2021 (UTC)