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Suryavanshi castes

They are not discussed.--Redtigerxyz 15:52, 11 November 2007 (UTC) I think that lord RAM was a SURYAVANSHI.As the saying for him goes like"RAGHUKUL REETI SADA CHALI AAYI, PRAAN JAYE PAR VACHAN NA JAYE",which means RAM was a raghuvanshi not a Suryavanshi. Please confirm it and then tell me about it.My email id is suryavanshi_prince19@yahoo.co.in —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.124.205.10 (talk) 15:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My dear friend Suryavansha and Raghuvansha are same.Because Surya or Vivaswan was the first person of this dynasty therefore his dynasty was called Suryavansha.Later in the same dynasty many important kings were born like Ikshwaku, Kakuthstha,Harishchandra,Dileepa,Bhagiratha,Sagara,Raghu,Dasharatha,Rama,etc.Because Raghu was very important king, his dynasty was known after him.Thus Raghu himself was a Suryavanshi and his sons and grandsons were Suryavanshi and Raghuvanshi also.But his father and grand father were Suryavanshi only and not Raghuvanshi.Raghuvansha started after him and bearing his name.

--Let there be light 13:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

I tend to agree. Ram is both a Raghuvanshi and Suryavanshi. The fact that the Raja Guru of Rama, Sage Vashista has advised Rama to pay tribute to Surya Bhagavan vouches to the fact that Rama is a Suryavanshi too. Heeding to the advice is the result of 'the hymn Aditya Hrudayam' which pays tribute to Surya.

Hnaluru (talk) 15:34, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Chandravanshis or also called as (Somavanshi) are the Lunar clan Kshatriyas. In the Rajputana and the Maratha Empire they served in the militaries as military Generals and military Commanders to Rajput Kings and Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj.

Title

"Suryavanshi" is the name describing someone from the dynasty, while "Suryavansha" describes the dynasty itself. For this article, it would be more appropriate to use the dynasty name as the article title. I propose a redirect. --Shruti14 ^{talk • sign} 20:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I agree with Shruti14.The title must be Suryavansha".Originally it was "Sun Dynasty", which means "Suryavansha" in Sanskrit and Hindi.So I am trying to change the title.But I presume it is hard to change title.

--Let there be light 12:56, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Merge- Suryavanshi into Suryavansha, valid reasons given above! --Ekabhishek (talk) 12:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thanks. --Shruti14 ^{talk • sign} 02:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with moving the page was that Suryavansha already existed as a redirect page, and Wikipedia detected that a page by that name already existed and didn't want to replace it. Fixing this simply involved manually copying the complete contents of the original article over to the new page, replacing the Suryavanshi page with a redirect, and moving the talk page. --Shruti14 ^{talk • sign} 02:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

I propose to merge Genealogy of Rama and Raghuvaṃśa dynasty into this article, since all three talks about the same dynasty. -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 06:37, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed and

Done

Help from some good editors

The family tree contributed should be improved and need good adjustment.can any one adjust it so it can fit in page.--Raghvendra99674010 (talk) 13:27, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I would just bin it. The thing is useless. - Sitush (talk) 15:00, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lineage after Sumitra

Suryavamsa dynasty does not end after Sumitra. Its only that their rule ended with Nanda. Their descendants were continued through 1)vallabhis of Saurasthras to Gehlotes & its subs 2)Rathores & its subs 3)Kachhwahas & its subs 14.99.19.134 (talk) 06:57, 5 December 2017 (UTC)SMK[reply]

You are right sir, suryavansha doesn't end after sumitra, his son kurma established his rule over rohtas Surajpratapsingh9075 (talk) 09:10, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mythological Dynasty

If Suryavansh or Solar Dynasty is a Mythological Dynasty, then why can't you guys put Rama under Mythological figure? The whole Ramayana and Mahabharatha should be under mere Mythology...RDKB (talk) 03:24, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lead or See also

Please add the following content either as last paragraph in the lead, I cas an IP can not add to this protected article:
Suryavanshi are one of the four principal houses of the Kshatriya varna, or warrior–ruling caste. Chandravanshi (Lunar dynasty) claim descent from the moon (Soma or Chandra), while the other principal houses, the Solar Dynasty (Suryavanshi) claims descent from the sun (surya),^[1] Agnivansha claim descent from Agni, the Vedic god of fire. Nagavanshi were mentioned as an snake-worshipping tribe of ancient India.^[2]

202.156.182.84 (talk) 19:44, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Diamond Pocket Books aren't a good source. See Wikipedia:Potentially unreliable sources/Books that plagiarize Wikipedia#Diamond Pocket Books. The second citation (Tiwari, 2002) isn't complete. utcursch | talk 14:54, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Paliwal, B. B. (2005). Message of the Purans. Diamond Pocket Books Ltd. p. 21. ISBN 978-8-12881-174-6.
^ Tiwari 2002, p. 177-231.

Proposed merge with Ikshvaku dynasty

Same subject, different name Sitush (talk) 15:39, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Unless there is a reliable source which distinguishes between these two terms, I don't see any reason for two separate articles to exist. utcursch | talk 14:52, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support If target is Ikshvaku dynasty. Also, get rid of all the unsourced OR and other stuff. Capankajsmilyo (talk) 10:25, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Don't merge Sun dynasty is more focused on Hinduism and its rulers. Ikshvalu dynasty is comprehensive name for the sun dynasty and encompasses within itself several Tirthankars of Jainism, other aspects Buddhism and Hinduism. JainismWikipedian (talk) 15:25, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So create a fork for the Jain aspect. These articles are way too long, way too confusing and way too contradictory within themselves. We are supposed to be writing to inform the reader, not to completely bamboozle them. - Sitush (talk) 00:31, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note I've just removed a claim at Raghuvanshi that the content there also relates to the Ikshvaku. I removed it because it was not sourced but the claim was that the two are synonymous, so we have another merge issue to deal with at some point. - Sitush (talk) 00:31, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

proposed to merg with other Ikshvaku page

Ikshvaku & SuryavanshaThis two page contain same dynasty clan.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajnabh (talk • contribs) 06:23, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Suryavanshi kshatriya

The suryavanshi khatiks are suryavanshi kshatriya Ishanbhardwad (talk) 15:15, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Paliwal, B. B. (2005). Message of the Purans. Diamond Pocket Books Ltd. p. 21. ISBN 978-8-12881-174-6.

[FOOTNOTETiwari2002177-231-2] Tiwari 2002, p. 177-231.

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