Talk:Surb Karapet Monastery

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April 14, 2015	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 24, 2015.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the stones of Surb Karapet Monastery (pictured), destroyed during the Armenian Genocide, were used to build houses in a Kurdish village?

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I'm moving this article to "Surb Karapet Monastery" for the following reasons:

"Surb Karapet" is not really a thing. Karapet is really not a name of a saint, to which "Saint Karapet" implies
"Surb Karapet" means "Holy Precursor" and not "Saint Precursor". Precursor is a name for John the Baptist
It doesn't make sense to translate the name of a monastery. See Hagia Sophia for example. It isn't called "Saint Sophia Basilica".
The vast majority of English sources (303 vs 46) use "Surb Karapet" instead of "Saint Karapet"

--Երևանցի ^talk 23:51, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Dr. Blofeld (talk · contribs) 20:44, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Give me a few days on this. Sorry you've had to wait since Christmas Eve to get this reviewed. Appalling service!♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:45, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lede

You don't need to source it.

Done Fixed.

It also needs to have a summary of architecture and something on the festivals.

Done

History

Who is Vazken L. Parsegian?

Done Removed the sentence completely because Parsegian does not seem to be an architectural historian or historian.

Why is "sometimes" cited like that?

Done

"seems to be establishing the pre-eminence of the monastery." -why is this quoted?

Done

"During the Middle Ages the monastery "owned twelve large burghs with a total population of 22,813. In this way this monastery was equal in its extent and wealth to some of the principalities owned by the nakharars."3" -also, please paraphrase

Done I removed the sentence completely, because it is pretty vague. The Middle Ages lasted for around a millennium (500-1500) and the source doesn't specify any specific historic period.

Again with The remaining stones are "being systematically carried off by the local Kurds for their own building purposes."

There's not much to paraphrase here, in my opinion.

Architecture

For people like Robert H. Hewsen, Dickran Kouymjian, H. F. B. Lynch, Henry Fanshawe Tozer etc it would be good if you state what they are before the name, like "according to religious scholar xxx, according to writer etc

Done

Cultural

Caravans of pilgrims visited it even from the remotest parts of the country. They made the yard of the monastery a place of great merriment and festivities." -either attribute this quote or paraphrase it, the latter ideally.

Done

Shouldn't songs be merged into cultural references?

Done Fixed.

References

For sources in Armenian you should give as language=Armenian in the citation templates.

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Good job, if you want anything reviewed in future just ask me, might save you having to wait half a year :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:12, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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