Talk:St Margaret's Church, Aberlour/GA1

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 08:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

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• Is it "Episcopal Church of Scotland " or the "Scottish Episcopal Church"? (lead v infobox)

Should be Scottish Episcopal Church, changed.

• "1875-1879" en-dash there, not a hyphen.

I think I'll have to resolve to read MOS:DASH and MOS:HYPHEN once a week until this sinks in...

• Could expand the lead a little, a rule of thumb for me is to make sure that for every section of the main part of the article, there's something in the lead, maybe small or large depending on how prominent it is. I'm not (for example) seeing anything from the "Description" section in the lead at all...

OK - I've expanded the lead a bit with more description. Do you think I've gone a bit far with the description though - I mean, I'm restraining myself in comparison to how Pevsner writes it up, apparently you have to see the stonework to believe it, but I don't want to come across as promotional.

• "cruciform Gothic" is a WP:SEAOFBLUE.

Moved the words around a bit

• "five-bay nave[4], oriented east-west" ref after punctuation. And "east–west" (or "east-to-west")...

• "south west" these days, I would either hyphenate that or make it one word...

hyphenated

• "Second World Wars" put "World Wars" in the pipe.

done

• Link reredos .

Done - surprised I missed that, it's definitely not something I'd expect the casual reader to understand. What do you think about altar - should that be linked, or is that going overboard?

• "valued at £300,000" could escalate this per inflation, sounds like a lot!

It was indeed an absolute bloody fortune at the time - she went overnight from being generally respectable, the daughter of the local doctor, to being far and away the richest person in the locale, without social equal. I came across her story while researching this, and find it fascinating - the wealth, along with Victorian expectations regarding feminine behaviour and homosexuality, seem to have been the ruin of her, and she slid into alcoholism and mental ill-health and died at 42. I'm working on a draft of a biographical article about her now. Anyway, back to your point - the published sources I've found don't give a figure, but I've done a bit of Googling. The National Archives websites suggests £24 million, the Bank of England suggests £33 million, but this site is a bit more nuanced - it explains that, depending on how you look at it, the value could be seens as being between £28 million and £887 million (!). What's the best thing to do here do you think?

Have a look at {{inflation}}, that's typically used without question over its reliability...! The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:23, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, didn't notice you'd responded to that when I expanded my response. I'll look at {{inflation}} now and go by what that says, thanks. GirthSummit _(blether) 11:43, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

OK, think I got my head around that, it's giving a figure of £30 million. I've rounded to the closest whole number of million - I strongly suspect that the value of £300,000 is rounded as well, so it seems pointless to give a more precise figure.

• " at 10 am.[13]" 10 a.m.

Thanks - another trick you've taught me.

• "Scotland - Aberdeenshire" en dash, not hyphen.

That's it, no major dramas here. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 10:46, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks a lot The Rambling Man - I think I've addressed all those concerns, and picked up a couple of typos while I was at it - can you check my changes to the lead and check I'm not verging too much on the promotional? Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 11:56, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: Hi - just in case you missed the last ping, I think it's ready for checking over. Apologies if you'd seen it and just been busy. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 09:16, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay, just been busy. More than happy that this exceeds what is needed for Good Article status. Nice work. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 19:21, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks TRM - I should have just been patient, your input on this is most appreciated. By the way - if you're interested in reading where my research on this topic went next, take a look at Margaret Macpherson Grant - she had a truly compelling life story, and I spent the last few days working with SusunW on the article. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 19:47, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

No worries. I was lucky enough to watch my lot win last night with almost the last kick of the match, and combined with working up to an imminent holiday, it's been busy. Let me know if you need any eyes on anything else, either now and at any point in the future. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 19:50, 21 August 2019 (UTC)