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This section reads like a CS student's term assignment to chart analogies to the OSI model, not sure how appropriate it is for this article or really what to do with it, maybe the entire section should be elided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dedelst (talk • contribs) 13:21, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Implementation of new literature

Hi all. My name is Theo and I'm a freelance Wikipedia editor and I am currently editing Wikipedia articles on behalf of the University of Virginia's Department of Data Science. This is one of the articles I have been asked to work on.

I have been researching this topic for about a month now and I am now writing up some of my research. I will be building on some of the existing sections of the article whilst also adding some new ones.

I am very open to all comments and please feel free to make changes/call me out on any changes you don't believe are faithful to the topic or the research.

I'm hoping to start properly editing the article soon! Theobrad (talk) 13:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source

Removed this source: ^[1], but it's likely helpful in the article. Noting it on the talk page. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some more pruned sentences that I feel bad about just deleting when the sources are helpful:

John M. Eger said that a smart community makes a conscious and agreed-upon decision to deploy technology as a catalyst to solving its social and business needs.^[2]

Technological propagation is not an end in itself, but a means to reinventing cities for a new economy and society.^[3]^[4] Mrfoogles (talk) 20:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More formally, a smart city is: "An urban area that has securely integrated technology across the information ... and Internet of Things (IoT) sectors to better manage a city’s assets."^[5] Mrfoogles (talk) 06:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Modern processors have only become better, more affordable, and accessible to even wider populations.^[6] Mrfoogles (talk) 07:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A service oriented infrastructure is required to connect individuals and devices in a smart city. These include innovation services and communication infrastructure. Yovanof, G. S. & Hazapis, G. N. define a digital city as "a connected community that combines broadband communications infrastructure; a flexible, service-oriented computing infrastructure based on open industry standards; and, innovative services to meet the needs of governments and their employees, citizens and businesses."^[7] Mrfoogles (talk) 07:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Sharifi, Ayyoob (October 2019). "A critical review of selected smart city assessment tools and indicator sets". Journal of Cleaner Production. 233: 1269–1283. doi:10.1016/j.jclepro.2019.06.172. S2CID 197777481.
^ Eger, John M. (1 January 2009). "Smart Growth, Smart Cities, and the Crisis at the Pump A Worldwide Phenomenon". Iways. 32 (1): 47–53. doi:10.3233/iwa-2009-0164. Archived from the original on 28 August 2019. Retrieved 11 August 2018.
^ Nam, Taewoo; Pardo, Theresa A. "Conceptualizing Smart City with Dimensions of Technology, People, and Institutions" (PDF). Center for Technology in Government University at Albany, State University of New York, U.S. The Proceedings of the 12th Annual International Conference on Digital Government Research.
^ Eger, John M. (24 July 2015). "Creativity in the Smart City Is What Makes a City Really Smart". HuffPost. Retrieved 27 August 2022.
^ Riley, Kim (12 June 2017). "EEI's new board chairman cites smart-city opportunities as convention gets under way". Daily Energy Insider. Archived from the original on 28 August 2019. Retrieved 25 September 2017.
^ Mack, C (20 January 2011). "Fifty Years of Moore's Law". IEEE Transactions on Semiconductor Manufacturing. 24 (2): 202–207. doi:10.1109/TSM.2010.2096437. S2CID 15658202.
^ Yovanof, Gregory S.; Hazapis, George N. (19 March 2009). "An Architectural Framework and Enabling Wireless Technologies for Digital Cities & Intelligent Urban Environments". Wireless Personal Communications. 49 (3): 445–463. doi:10.1007/s11277-009-9693-4. ISSN 0929-6212. S2CID 207258536.

State of the article

Been editing this a lot and wanted to give a summary of the issues. First, a lot of it is either written like a scientific report (see Dimensions, Background), or written in list format (see Technologies used, Dimensions, Frameworks, etc). Second, the History section is a bit broken because the modern section is composed of a prose list of things that happened, plus two parts that I ripped from the previous section on Research and global interest because that section focused more on global interest than research, and put into History and By country. I think its better to have it formatted that way, but the History section (which was never really complete) is still not really working. I think maybe the Frameworks section, which may have been created by one editor (it references "these three dimensions" being important at the end, but does not cite a source for it?), should probably be merged into Methods, because that's what it mostly describes, plus maybe into History because the last segment describes the movement. The specific division into those frameworks I cannot find a citation for, and I think it's just an editors decision, so it doesn't need to be kept.

Dimensions is according to edit summaries sourced to a specific common classification among studies, but it reads like a scientific report and not an encyclopedia article, which should discuss classifications, rather than state a certain set is objectively correct. For example, "To guarantee the efficient coordination and equilibrium of smart city dimensions, cities ought to establish comprehensive and interconnected planning frameworks that address all dimensions concurrently." This reads like a report and not an article, which shouldn't be saying what cities ought to do. I think the main reformatting that should be done is Frameworks should be split and merged, and Dimensions probably needs to be rewritten. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thank you so much for this feedback. This was the first real scientific article I did a lot of work on. With this in mind, I definitely agree that the tone needs to be much more Encyclopaedic. I will look through your others comments in more detail when I get the chance and try to explain what I was trying to achieve or make edits based on your recommendations.

Thank you again! Theobrad (talk) 07:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying, tone is a bit off in my opinion but the sourcing is very good and I think that helps the article. Edited some things a bit. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update (nobody needs to reply to this, just putting in the same thread): condensed Dimensions down to a discussion of policy implementation & interpretation (see Implementation), moved frameworks into the Implementation and Methods sections. The main broken part of the article is now the Methods section, because I added more list-format info to it and it is now very long. Mrfoogles (talk) 06:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also adding that (this isn't attributed to anyone, just how it happened) the article pretty much entirely focuses on the benefits and positive views of smart cities, and criticisms are relegated to 1 sentence in the lead and the Criticisms section. I feel like currently the article is not to the point where stuff like this needs to be focused on, but in an ideal world there would be more of the ideas from the Criticism section throughout the article to the extent that they're significant and reasonable views, per the due weight policy. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mrfoogles,

I think it might be helpful for you to look at my Sandbox. User:Theobrad/sandbox. This, I believe, was the sandbox I was writing most of the article in whilst I was researching the subject. Looking at this sandbox perhaps gives a better overview of the points I was trying to make. In this format it is still heavily academic, but I think the full academic debate which I capture in this sandbox showcases the inherent criticism of the concept of smart cities. I.e. when talking about top down vs bottom up, I believe there was a decent amount of discussion about why one versus the other would lead to undesirable outcomes of smart city development. It may prove not very helpful, but it's worth looking over. The reason why not all of the information on the sandbox was directly transfer onto the main article and then edited, was that the total word count would end up being over 10,000, which I was told would lead to the article being cut up. Theobrad (talk) 10:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

K, probably will look at that. Just so you know, I think whoever gave you the 10,000 number might have oversimplified a bit: I think the full guidelines are at Wikipedia:Article_size#Size_guideline, which gives exceptions for when it's necessary for scope, so I think the article won't be definitely cut up, it's just not recommended unless necessary. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's good to know! Theobrad (talk) 16:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Sharifi, Ayyoob (October 2019). "A critical review of selected smart city assessment tools and indicator sets". Journal of Cleaner Production. 233: 1269–1283. doi:10.1016/j.jclepro.2019.06.172. S2CID 197777481.

[2] Eger, John M. (1 January 2009). "Smart Growth, Smart Cities, and the Crisis at the Pump A Worldwide Phenomenon". Iways. 32 (1): 47–53. doi:10.3233/iwa-2009-0164. Archived from the original on 28 August 2019. Retrieved 11 August 2018.

[:12-3] Nam, Taewoo; Pardo, Theresa A. "Conceptualizing Smart City with Dimensions of Technology, People, and Institutions" (PDF). Center for Technology in Government University at Albany, State University of New York, U.S. The Proceedings of the 12th Annual International Conference on Digital Government Research.

[Eger-4] Eger, John M. (24 July 2015). "Creativity in the Smart City Is What Makes a City Really Smart". HuffPost. Retrieved 27 August 2022.

[:5-5] Riley, Kim (12 June 2017). "EEI's new board chairman cites smart-city opportunities as convention gets under way". Daily Energy Insider. Archived from the original on 28 August 2019. Retrieved 25 September 2017.

[6] Mack, C (20 January 2011). "Fifty Years of Moore's Law". IEEE Transactions on Semiconductor Manufacturing. 24 (2): 202–207. doi:10.1109/TSM.2010.2096437. S2CID 15658202.

[7] Yovanof, Gregory S.; Hazapis, George N. (19 March 2009). "An Architectural Framework and Enabling Wireless Technologies for Digital Cities & Intelligent Urban Environments". Wireless Personal Communications. 49 (3): 445–463. doi:10.1007/s11277-009-9693-4. ISSN 0929-6212. S2CID 207258536.

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