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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by AirshipJungleman29 talk 14:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sadie O. Horton

~~... that Sadie O. Horton (pictured), who was the first recorded female United States Merchant Marine veteran of World War II, filled various roles?~~
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Haikyu!! The Dumpster Battle

Created by DMVHistorian (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 399 past nominations.

SL93 (talk) 04:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Comment only (not a review): cumbersome hook, the part "filled various roles" is pointless and superfluous to the more-than-notable statement preceding it. Just simplify the hook:

ALT1: ... that Sadie O. Horton (pictured) was the first recorded female United States Merchant Marine veteran of World War II?

-- P 1 9 9 ✉ 16:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with that. SL93 (talk) 21:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hook is interesting and meets criteria. Article is new enough and long enough. Picture is free use and used within article. Detected no plagiarism, but when spot-checking citations I was unable to verify the statement "They had 5 children" from this source which only mentions there were seven family members without specifying if these were children, or aunts, uncles, etc. Only three children are named within the source. I also struck the original hook based on above comments.

@SL93: Notifying as nominator. CSJJ104 (talk) 16:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CSJJ104 I just removed that part. SL93 (talk) 18:04, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Approving. I did consider that the word "recognised" might be better than recorded, but as at least one source uses the word recorded I am happy to approve as is. CSJJ104 (talk) 19:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SL93 and CSJJ104: Two things: the hook seems to rely on the evidence of Horton's son (the Daily Advance source notes "That's according to her son, Don Horton"), and the last sentence needs a better source than a blogspot image, which could potentially have been manipulated. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AirshipJungleman29 There are two other sources directly after that one that verify the fact. Sources 3 ("One such brave and seafaring woman was Sadie Horton, who was not recognized as a veteran until 2017 when her family received her official military DD 214 certificate of discharge as a veteran of the U.S. Merchant Marine.") and 8 (" Prior to this passing, mariners who remained along the coast faced difficulty in earning veteran status, thereby affecting benefits that they could later receive. For one woman in particular, it was the lobbying of her son who fought to finally receive paperwork of his mother's Honorable Discharge. ") SL93 (talk) 15:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also here - "Despite serving her country during World War II, Sadie Horton was not recognized as a veteran until February 2017, and even that was due to the extensive efforts of her son, Don." SL93 (talk) 15:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the last sentence. SL93 (talk) 15:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page 41 of Daily Cargo News. SL93 (talk) 17:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unpromoted per WT:DYK RoySmith (talk) 14:21, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]