Talk:Sabal palmetto

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There are no recent records of this species on Cape Hatteras and I have rewritten the Cape Hatteras reference to (hopefully) clarify it. The sentence "A disjunct population also exists on Cape Hatteras in North Carolina" is a mangling of a statement from a U.S. government publication (cited in the article) that says "A disjunct population has been reported [emphasis added] at Cape Hatteras, NC", citing E.L. Little's 1979 checklist of trees and shrubs. This checklist in turn probably bases its record on an 1883 account of this species on Cape Hatteras, but that account also commented that the Cape Hatteras population was extirpated well over 100 years ago (although this population was apparently never documented with specimens). This underscores the need to refer to primary references (e.g., Zona's revision of the genus) rather than relying on secondary (or in this case, tertiary or worse) sources. MrDarwin 15:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stand of Palmetto's In Kennesaw, GA (Newly adj. to zone 8a)

Off of US HWY 41 along side of the old 20 acre pasture now a Kennesaw city park and about 1 mile south of North Cobb High School lining the roadside are some mysterious stands of 30+ years palmettos. Tallest Reaching about 33 feet. The strange thing is the stand of palmetto's grow in a thicket of shrubs and were not planted, but appear to have been wild but this surely cannot explain it. They have tolerated the red clay soil and some of the harshest winter of the North GA piedmont... Quite strange how ever according to local residents there is a claim that in the mid-60's a near neighbor had a small palm nursery which failed so the he/she had moved. It is not clear if the person had planted these or not because the home had been a few yards away from the thicket. Could the palms have seeds that had produced a individual stand?

--Much of greater Atlanta is actually part of USDA Zone 8 under the updated 2003 Map [1]. They eliminated the a/b distinctions as well. Zone 8 creeps up the Atlantic coast to southern Maryland and includes the interior/coastal urban sections of Baltimore and Washington, DC as well, where hardy sabals and windmills have been known to withstand winters there as well.--

They were probably grown there originally and abandoned. There's really no reason they'd grow there naturally, even though they can tolerate the climate. Dwarf palmettos grow wild near rivers and longleaf pine stands in the sandhills and fall line areas, and I'm sure they could creep up a river into the piedmont occasionally.

Outer Banks?

The reference link for the new Outer Banks population is broken. Pigkeeper 19:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC) duh duh[reply]

Main photo

The palms is the main photograph have been improperly pruned. Perhaps more photographs could be added to the article to more accurately depict this species. There are many great photographs of cabbage palms in the Econlockhatchee river section. -D.P. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.104.74.124 (talk) 03:12, 30 December 2008 and was previously entered on the now defunct Talk:Sabal palmetto/Comments subpage

False picture

Someone placed a picture of a Butia capitata in this article, describing it as a Sabal palmetto. This is very bad, as it is entirely misleading and the 2 don't even look alive. One is palmate and one is pinnate, which shows very shoddy workmanship!

Are you sure? Is there a picture of a Butia capitata you could link to? Abductive (reasoning) 23:34, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just took this picture yesterday in Lexington, South Carolina. (South Carolina is the Palmetto State).Abductive (reasoning) 23:38, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

100% positive, here's a picture to compare:

http://images.bidorbuy.co.za/user_images/637/450Butia_capitata2.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.46.131 (talk) 23:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also here is a picture that is perfect for that spot:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Spalmetto2.JPG

I am trying to add it, but am having trouble. It is perfect because it is a habitat picture and it doesn't show an overly trimmed palm, which landscapers often do. This "hurricane cut" is detrimental to the health of the palm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.46.131 (talk) 23:53, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I changed to the image you suggested. Do people plant Butia capitata in the US? Abductive (reasoning) 23:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Yes, Butia capitata is quite a common palm in the US. It is the one of the cold hardiest pinnate palms. The only pinnate palm that is more cold hardy is the Jubaea chilensis, which requires a Mediterranean climate. If you are interested in palms, you should create an account at Palmtalk.org, there are many there that have a great passion for palms and are very knowledgeable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeeth (talk • contribs) 00:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, I just wanted a better image in the article than the one I replaced yesterday. I am not from South Carolina, so I just assumed that this plant that resembled the tree on the license plate and state flag was the tree I was photographing. Abductive (reasoning) 00:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, yes the previous image wasn't the best, but I think that the image in place at the moment is quite good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeeth (talk • contribs) 00:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, for everything. Please consider staying on Wikipedia to help with your areas of expertise. Abductive (reasoning) 00:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Once I have got the editing and adding pictures down, I'll update a bunch of the articles on palm trees. Zeeth (talk) 00:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great. One thing about adding pictures is that the "file:" beforehand is sometimes needed and sometimes not. I think it has something to do with the infoboxes and maybe if the image is in the Commons or just on the English Wikipedia. Abductive (reasoning) 00:31, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thanks. Zeeth (talk) 00:35, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not Native in Virginia

The Sabal Palmetto is not native to Virginia. The reference that was cited for support is inaccurate on this point. The northernmost native popululation is on Cape Hatteras, in North Carolina. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.163.180 (talk) 00:51, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sabalites, an extinct palmetto genus

We don't have anything yet on this genus, but if there's a paleobotanist so-inclined:

Big Cedar Ridge, Wyoming: a 73 million-year-old palmeto thicket would be a good inclusion in the eventual article. Interesting stuff. --Pete Tillman (talk) 03:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fruit

The article notes that the tree bears fruit. Is this fruit edible? If so, is it palatable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.202.33.17 (talk) 03:04, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence for the name "Garfield's tree"? Possible hoax

Most Web hits probably just copied Wikipedia. Google Books has nothing much. Equinox ◑ 16:03, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with all of this. Remove. Invasive Spices (talk) 19:39, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]