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Rose rock vs. Desert rose (crystal)

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How is this different from Desert rose (crystal)? Starcat09 02:54, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow looks the same to me!! --HoopoeBaijiKite 17:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article deals specifically with barite desert roses when stained red by other minerals, and Desert rose (crystal) is about both barite and selenite with any coloration. Rose rock can be merged into it, but I think it would be better to leave them separate but linking to each other. Metaknowledge (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Oklahoma Wiki Project

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These rocks are unique to Oklahoma; we should probably have this article as part of the Oklahoma Wiki Project. ProfessorPaul 00:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They're not unique to Oklahoma, they are also found in at least one other location on Earth, the current article states this to be Spain, but I've added a "citation needed" tag to it. But I do agree that it should be part of the Oklahoma Wiki Project as Oklahomans publicise this "fact" loads. Barry m (talk) 06:30, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Two comments: I would change the general name of these to barite roses, and note that locally, in Oklahoma, they are called "rose rocks." These are a mineral, not a rock.

I would also keep this separate from desert roses, which are similar crystal formations of gypsum instead of barite. Linking the two makes sense.

Barite roses found elsewhere are not red. The red ones are found only in the Garber Sand. I have examples from Morocco that are tan, reflecting the environment in which they formed.

If included in the Oklahoma Project, this entry, or a similar one, referring the user to the Okla page, should stand alone as a description of an interesting mineral formation.

There is no mention here, of barite being used in oil well drilling mud because of its weight. Barite is relatively dense for a non-metallic mineral. It is ground to a powder and mixed into drilling mud to prevent blowouts in wells being drilled where there is gas pressure in the formation. Printr (talk) 08:53, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • There is no indication that there is a defined distinction between a gypsum desert rose and a barite rose rock. In OK, where they are called rose rock, they just happen to be barite. But in colloquial use, these names (and others) are used interchangeably for any rosette formations of mineral crystals. -- P 1 9 9   14:53, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Size

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4 inches is closer to 10 cm, not 20 as mentioned in the article. How big can they actually get? 131.107.0.81 (talk) 23:33, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

4 inches is the average. The largest recorded was 17 inches across and 10 inches high, weighing 125 pounds. HotshotCleaner (talk) 23:51, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I fixed the bad conversion, added conversions to the bottom section, and added a "most" to the range at the top. I am not going to change the "average" at the bottom (even though it's unclear what that is even supposed to mean) since that's how it's worded in the source. I hope somebody else can clean that up. 131.107.0.81 (talk) 20:22, 17 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

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I've uploaded a pic of some samples in my collection which I know are sourced from Oklahoma, hope that helps. LovelyLillith (talk) 21:38, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]