Talk:Rooppur pillow scandal
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 19:12, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
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... that as of 2019, the price of each pillow in Bangladesh ranges from US$2.96 to US$3.55, but in Rooppur TC housing project, the purchase of each pillow was set at US$70.58?Source: BBC and Inqilab- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mohnyin Thado 2
- Comment: A slight copyedit work will be appreciated.
Created by Mehediabedin (talk). Self-nominated at 19:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC).
- I am copyediting this article, as requested on my talk. Here is a suggested hook :)
- ALT1 ... that pillows were purchased for 20 times above the market price in Rooppur Nuclear Power Plant's housing complex?
- . — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 05:09, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
- Article is new enough and long enough.
- The two sources for the original hook are both in a language I cannot read, so I'm going to AGF that the hook verifies. But I've struck that hook anyway because it's too complicated. ALT1 is much better, and I assume the same sources from the original also apply to ALT1?
- QPQ is done
- In its current form, this fails WP:NPOV. For example, the lede makes the statement in Wikipedia voice
The scandal is one of the most controversial examples of corruption in Bangladesh
. That needs to be attributed to whoever said it. But that's just one example. This is entirely negative coverage and reads like an exposé. I think it will take extensive copyediting to make it neutral. - I am not familiar with any of the sources, so I'm going to AGF that they are WP:RS. It might be a good idea for somebody who reads Bengali to look this over.
- -- RoySmith (talk) 02:58, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Well I edited the sentence to remove NPOV issue. I understand that you can't verify the sources and maybe using translator is hard for you. Then we can wait for someone. Is there any remaining sentences in the article that fails WP:NPOV? Mehedi Abedin 09:15, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- -- RoySmith (talk) 02:58, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
- Some additional issues:
- "After it went viral through newspapers". It's WP:OR to call the story "viral" unless there's a WP:RS which calls it that.
- "was allegedly spent". Who alleged that?
- "An investigation is currently ongoing". Please see WP:NOTNEWS
- "The media reported Golam Faruk Khandakar Prince, MP of the area, was involved with the organization." Be specific about what newspaper or other media outlet made this report.
- In some places, you give monetary amounts first in Bangladeshi taka, then convert to US Dollars. In other places, you do it in the other direction. Pick one way and be consistent.
- "the goods supplied by Sajin Enterprise were of low quality." That needs to be backed up by a WP:RS which says that.
- -- RoySmith (talk) 00:16, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: Done. About the Sajin thing that was already sourced by Prothom Alo. Mehedi Abedin 14:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- -- RoySmith (talk) 00:16, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
- My overall impression is that this fails WP:NPOV. I am hindered, however, by my inability to read the sources in their original language, so I think this will need to be reviewed by somebody else. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:04, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- There's been no edits to the article since mid-October and it doesn't look like the POV issues have been addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: It's not about edit or addressing POV issue. I did everything I could. But the reviewer couldn’t understand and keep this for another reviewer. So I don't know why you are closing this nomination. Mehedi Abedin 04:06, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm reading the "Reaction" section again and the tone does seem off. It probably needs to be rewritten in some way because the tone seems accusatory. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:59, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Then you can close the nomination, no problem. Mehedi Abedin 08:35, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Article copy-edited now. @RoySmith and Narutolovehinata5:, you may reconsider. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 07:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Now needs a second look. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Mehediabedin: Personally I feel as if the sentence "Authorities from various departments of the government demanded that action be taken against culprits of the incident." should some citations as that does seem like a bold claim to make. Also, the sentence "According to the newspaper Jugantor, the people of authority think the minister of Public Works was Mosharraf Hossain during the scandal, so he can not avoid liability for moral reasons" does not sound right and should be fixed to be more coherent. Onegreatjoke (talk) 14:54, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Greetings and thanks for your time to review. Unfortunately, I didn’t find any other sources mentioned the bold claim so I changed the sentence and only mentioned about the reaction of a specific ministry. And I fixed the second issue. Hope that the sentence now seems more coherent. Mehedi Abedin 02:33, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Mehediabedin: If you change "...that Mosharraf Hossain should take responsibility for that unavoidable incident as he..." to just "... "that Mosharraf Hossain should take responsibility for the incident as he..." I can approve this. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:39, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Done. Mehedi Abedin 01:59, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Alright, approving. Onegreatjoke (talk) 03:15, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Done. Mehedi Abedin 01:59, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Mehediabedin: If you change "...that Mosharraf Hossain should take responsibility for that unavoidable incident as he..." to just "... "that Mosharraf Hossain should take responsibility for the incident as he..." I can approve this. Onegreatjoke (talk) 18:39, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Onegreatjoke: Greetings and thanks for your time to review. Unfortunately, I didn’t find any other sources mentioned the bold claim so I changed the sentence and only mentioned about the reaction of a specific ministry. And I fixed the second issue. Hope that the sentence now seems more coherent. Mehedi Abedin 02:33, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Mehediabedin: Personally I feel as if the sentence "Authorities from various departments of the government demanded that action be taken against culprits of the incident." should some citations as that does seem like a bold claim to make. Also, the sentence "According to the newspaper Jugantor, the people of authority think the minister of Public Works was Mosharraf Hossain during the scandal, so he can not avoid liability for moral reasons" does not sound right and should be fixed to be more coherent. Onegreatjoke (talk) 14:54, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Now needs a second look. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- Article copy-edited now. @RoySmith and Narutolovehinata5:, you may reconsider. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 07:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Then you can close the nomination, no problem. Mehedi Abedin 08:35, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm reading the "Reaction" section again and the tone does seem off. It probably needs to be rewritten in some way because the tone seems accusatory. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:59, 19 November 2022 (UTC)