Talk:Richard Alarcon
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Requested move 27 February 2015
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Move. It appears we have consensus that most sources eschew the accent mark; no (currently readable) sources have been provided showing a preference for the accent by the subject, reliable sources, etc. Cúchullain t/c 20:41, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Richard Alarcón → Richard Alarcon – English-language sources show Alarcon's name spelled without an accent. There was no discussion when a previous move was made to a page with such a mark. See Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(use_English)#Modified_letters. GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:03, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Support. per proposal. – nafSadh did say 21:22, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose - These sources never explained much why they left out the accent mark. Rather they simply used the name without a diacritic without a reason. Common or not, an accurate name is discouraged per WP:COMMONNAMES. The proposed name can work as a redirect. --George Ho (talk) 02:34, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose 16:41, 25 June 2006 User:Asbl "moved Richard Alarcon to Richard Alarcón: per his official site in the California Senate, http://democrats.sen.ca.gov/templates/SDCTemplate.asp?cp=MemberPage&pg=senhome&sln=Alarcon&sdn=20&zrn=Zone/ " therefore Nom needs to give evidence that the Spanish accent is missing from sources which can and do use accents for others, but omit for this individual. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:11, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- The website is dead right now. --George Ho (talk) 08:45, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- deadlink or not the onus is for the proposer to provide some evidence User:Nafsadh did you see that Making of Chicano Studies Rodolfo Acuña (2011) and Erin Brockovich and the Beverly Hills Greenscam Norma Zager (2010) use the accent? In ictu oculi (talk) 04:52, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
- The website is dead right now. --George Ho (talk) 08:45, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Support per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(use_English)#Modified_letters. The majority of reliable English sources do not use an accent. See, for example, Google books results. Or LA Times articles. Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 10:35, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Support. Evidence has now been provided that the name is more commonly used without the accent. The official website does not count much in the face of this, and nor do opinions as to which is correct nor speculation as to why the unaccented name is more common. Andrewa (talk) 18:28, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Support as proposed. WP:COMMONNAME is a well respected guideline, and reliable sources do not appear to use the accent mark in sufficient numbers to give it WEIGHT.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 22:34, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
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