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Does not say anything about hydrogen

Everyone is now familiar with the idea of electric vehicles and electric heating, but hydrogen fuel is apparently the new thing being developed. See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55763356 92.24.177.142 (talk) 16:55, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Issue of mass exploitation of slave labor in china

A comparison of prices over time for energy from nuclear fission and from other sources. Over the presented time, thousands of wind turbines and similar were built on assembly lines in mass production resulting in an economy of scale. *Our World in Data* notes that these costs are an effort to represent the global *average*. Which is driven by chinese forced labor practices in solar and wind, ^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4] ^[5] that manufactured, installed and exported the most globally,^[6]^[7] bankrupting US and German solar industries, multiple times, over the time indicated.^[8]^[9] In which, the manufacturing of panels were suggested to be 30% of solar costs in the largest production facility in the west, before labor costs were included, which they argue China do not pay, upon declaring its bankruptcy.^[10] While the 2 projects that drove *average* nuclear pricing upwards were 2 first of their kind AP1000s in the US/west. The organization recognises that the median cost of nuclear, the most exported and produced nuclear energy facility in the 2010s the 7 South Korean APR1400, remained "constant", including in export.^[11] No data on the 18 Chinese domestic nuclear, CPR1000 were included.
LCOE is a measure of the average net present cost of electricity generation for a generating plant over its lifetime. As a metric, it remains controversial as the lifespan of units are not independent but manufacturer projections, not a demonstrated longevity.

References

^ https://www.americanmanufacturing.org/blog/report-finds-forced-labor-throughout-china-solar-panel-supply-chain/ Report Finds Forced Labor Throughout China Solar Panel Supply Chain Matthew McMullan. MAY 19 2021 "researchers in the United Kingdom 'released a report examining Chinese government-run labor programs that service the industries in the solar panel supply chain that runs through the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region"
^ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/business/economy/china-forced-labor-solar.html
^ https://www.eenews.net/articles/solar-industry-were-in-most-serious-crisis-in-history/ "Faced with the prospect of tariffs on Chinese-made solar panels in 2017, SEIA warned that the market would react badly to new duties, predicting that the price of new panels would reverse years of declines and jump back up to 2012 levels."
^ https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/08/u-s-solar-china-polysilicon-battle/ The U.S. solar industry has a Chinese problem Solar Power World August 9, 2021. "Desari Strader, then-head of government affairs for SolarWorld Americas.[Operator of the largest polysilicon production facility in the western world] “They were beating us on the cost of production,” Strader said of Chinese suppliers at the time. “We had just finished ramping up [to mono-PERC]. Of course the Chinese could come and dump [cheap panels] in the U.S. It was super easy. Then everyone is screaming that you can’t compete with [Chinese module prices.] Yeah, you’re right. We can’t compete with slave labor.”
^ https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3115771/us-moves-renewable-energy-wind-turbines-xinjiang-may-get-caught As US moves to renewable energy, wind turbines from Xinjiang may get caught in political tempest South China Morning Post "As more information emerges about the suspected use of forced labour in the region, the US government has begun restricting trade from the area."
^ https://www.irena.org/publications/2020/Jun/Renewable-Power-Costs-in-2019 IRENA.Renewable Power Costs in 2019
^ https://www.irena.org/newsroom/pressreleases/2021/Jun/IRENA-and-China-Sign-Landmark-Cooperation-to-Address-Climate-Change "IRENA and China agreed to strengthen co-operation on the promotion of climate finance and investment as well as the promotion of innovation, policies and technology in the area of renewable energy and climate change and facilitate enhanced international collaboration."
^ https://m.dw.com/en/germanys-solarworld-files-for-bankruptcy-again/a-43166235 Germany's Solarworld files for bankruptcy again 28.03.2018 "Competition from China, the world's largest producer of solar panels, has been a major headache for Solarworld. The Bonn-based company noted that EU plans to let protective tariffs against Chinese imports lapse made its position untenable"
^ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-solarworld-bankruptcy-idUSKBN1862MN German Sun King's SolarWorld to file for insolvency ..."overwhelmed by Chinese rivals who had long been a thorn in the side..." "Germany used to be the world’s biggest market for solar panels, with demand driven by generous government support that provided business for panel makers around the world, including Asia and the United States." Reuters May 10 2017
^ ref>https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/08/u-s-solar-china-polysilicon-battle/ The U.S. solar industry has a Chinese problem Solar Power World August 9, 2021. "Desari Strader, then-head of government affairs for SolarWorld Americas."If 30% of the cost of a panel is your polysilicon, and you’re not paying wages, [of course] they were beating us on the cost of production,” Strader said"
^ https://ourworldindata.org/cheap-renewables-growth

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[1] ttps://www.americanmanufacturing.org/blog/report-finds-forced-labor-throughout-china-solar-panel-supply-chain/ Report Finds Forced Labor Throughout China Solar Panel Supply Chain Matthew McMullan. MAY 19 2021 "researchers in the United Kingdom 'released a report examining Chinese government-run labor programs that service the industries in the solar panel supply chain that runs through the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region"

[2] ttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/business/economy/china-forced-labor-solar.html

[3] ttps://www.eenews.net/articles/solar-industry-were-in-most-serious-crisis-in-history/ "Faced with the prospect of tariffs on Chinese-made solar panels in 2017, SEIA warned that the market would react badly to new duties, predicting that the price of new panels would reverse years of declines and jump back up to 2012 levels."

[4] ttps://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/08/u-s-solar-china-polysilicon-battle/ The U.S. solar industry has a Chinese problem Solar Power World August 9, 2021. "Desari Strader, then-head of government affairs for SolarWorld Americas.[Operator of the largest polysilicon production facility in the western world] “They were beating us on the cost of production,” Strader said of Chinese suppliers at the time. “We had just finished ramping up [to mono-PERC]. Of course the Chinese could come and dump [cheap panels] in the U.S. It was super easy. Then everyone is screaming that you can’t compete with [Chinese module prices.] Yeah, you’re right. We can’t compete with slave labor.”

[5] ttps://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3115771/us-moves-renewable-energy-wind-turbines-xinjiang-may-get-caught As US moves to renewable energy, wind turbines from Xinjiang may get caught in political tempest South China Morning Post "As more information emerges about the suspected use of forced labour in the region, the US government has begun restricting trade from the area."

[6] ttps://www.irena.org/publications/2020/Jun/Renewable-Power-Costs-in-2019 IRENA.Renewable Power Costs in 2019

[7] ttps://www.irena.org/newsroom/pressreleases/2021/Jun/IRENA-and-China-Sign-Landmark-Cooperation-to-Address-Climate-Change "IRENA and China agreed to strengthen co-operation on the promotion of climate finance and investment as well as the promotion of innovation, policies and technology in the area of renewable energy and climate change and facilitate enhanced international collaboration."

[8] ttps://m.dw.com/en/germanys-solarworld-files-for-bankruptcy-again/a-43166235 Germany's Solarworld files for bankruptcy again 28.03.2018 "Competition from China, the world's largest producer of solar panels, has been a major headache for Solarworld. The Bonn-based company noted that EU plans to let protective tariffs against Chinese imports lapse made its position untenable"

[9] ttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-solarworld-bankruptcy-idUSKBN1862MN German Sun King's SolarWorld to file for insolvency ..."overwhelmed by Chinese rivals who had long been a thorn in the side..." "Germany used to be the world’s biggest market for solar panels, with demand driven by generous government support that provided business for panel makers around the world, including Asia and the United States." Reuters May 10 2017

[10] ref>https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/08/u-s-solar-china-polysilicon-battle/ The U.S. solar industry has a Chinese problem Solar Power World August 9, 2021. "Desari Strader, then-head of government affairs for SolarWorld Americas."If 30% of the cost of a panel is your polysilicon, and you’re not paying wages, [of course] they were beating us on the cost of production,” Strader said"

[11] ttps://ourworldindata.org/cheap-renewables-growth

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