Talk:Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency Partnership

Merger proposal

Propose to merge articles on Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency Partnership and REEEP as same thing. Beagel 16:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

 Done. This has evidently been done. RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 08:16, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Gobldegook and jargon

Really terrible article full of PR lingo and pseudo-intelligent nonsense. I cleaned it up but can't be bothered wading through it all properly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OddsBodkins (talk • contribs) 09:08, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

I got rid of the whole middle section. This was left some years ago, much before my time. However, I find this comment quite shocking! I am quite appalled that Wikipedia editors themselves have very little dedication to accuracy if they ''can't be bothered wading through'' content on the site. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 13:43, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Updates 2024

Full disclosure - I am the Communications Manager. I want to update the page and remove the outdated jargon and information and update the logo. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 13:24, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

hi i would like to add citations to this to remove the banner, please indicate what is questionable and i will find citations Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 14:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

i think i need to do this here too?

{{paid|user=Erinstewart-REEEP|employer=REEEP}}

Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 14:14, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for disclosing! I've corrected your disclosure and added the proper banner to this page. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 16:06, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

It is advisable to use the request edit system with the template {{edit COI}} rather than edit the article directly. Theroadislong (talk) 20:50, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

It says ''Go to the article's Talk page and click the New section tab. Add and fill in the following:''

Where is the 'new section' tab`? There is 'add topic' only.

If you do 'add topic' but there is no option to add citations to the article. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 07:30, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Clicking "add topic" will start a new section and then you follow the instructions at {{edit COI}}. Theroadislong (talk) 08:21, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Ok, the instructions are incorrect, but I found it. Nevertheless, it is only possible to suggest edits and not add citations. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 08:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

You can add your sources, changes will not be made without them. Theroadislong (talk) 08:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

but how? the citation quotes are not available here. If you copy paste text from a page that has sources, they disappear. Case in point, this paragraph has several sources on the main page:

REEEP was originally launched by the government of the United Kingdom, along with other partners, at the Johannesburg World Summit on Sustainable Development (WSSD) in August 2002. Since 2004 it has been headquartered at the United Nations Office in Vienna and is supported by the Government of Austria among others.

I copy pasted it here, the sources are gone, there are no quote marks in the tools to add citations. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 08:48, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

You shouldn't be copy pasting anything, the source can be found in your browser address bar if your source is on line, if it's abook just give the details, title, publisher, author, page number. Theroadislong (talk) 08:57, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

You just deleted a bunch of text that has been on the page for years, I did not add that recently. I want to update that section accurately, please dont just bin it entirely Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 08:59, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I copy pasted it as an example, not literally - i wanted to show you it is not possible to add sources in the talk page and the sources dissapear when you add them here Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 09:00, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

What i'm getting at is the option to add sources is not here - if you do it on the main page it gives you the whole block to fill in with the details, title, publisher, author, page number, and most of the time it automatically does it for you. not possible here! Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 09:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

And now you have added back all the promotional material that was removed, you are being paid by Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency Partnership, you should NOT be editing the article directly. Theroadislong (talk) 09:04, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I wanted to suggest edits to it here, but i can't suggest edits if the text is gone Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 09:06, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

In the first phase of its existence (2002-2014) REEEP acted largely as a re-granting institution, funding nearly 200 projects. The majority have targeted emerging markets such as India, China, South Africa and Brazil.

This for example, is not promotional material, it is what REEEP did in the first 15 years. I would suggest taking out the italics on re-granting. I would also suggest removing 'interventions' from the section title and renaming it more neutrally. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 09:08, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

• @Theroadislong: I believe that what @Erinstewart-REEEP: is trying to say is that they don't see the visual editor option on talk pages and they don't know how to cite something on the talk page without it. I too see a talk page with "Edit source" (no "Edit") and "Add topic". FYI, Erin, all pages on Wikipedia used to use what's called the source code editor. You can watch this tutorial from 2012 to see how to create a properly formatted citation using the source code editor. If you click on "Edit source" a line should appear with "Advanced" "Special characters" "Help" and "Cite". Pull down on "Cite" and you should get another row starting with "Templates". The "Templates" pulldown should show things like "Cite web", "Cite book", "Cite journal", etc. Selecting one of those will bring up a small editing window. If you fill in the doi, or isbn, and click the magnifying glass, the program should try to fill in the details of the citation. If the computer can't figure the citation out, you may have to resort to cut and paste. You will need to click on "Insert" in the citation window to generate the source code and then on "Publish" to save the changes. Best wishes, Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 02:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you Mary for your constructive advice! 193.138.105.24 (talk) 07:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Inappropriate marketing content by paid editor - written in 2016, discovered in 2024

This is an encyclopaedia it is not your marketing tool, content like ”to stimulate markets for off-grid electrification solutions in Zambia”, “project to accelerate market-based solutions for energy-related investment”, “promoting sustainable consumption and production (SCP) practices and patterns.”, “furthers improvements and efficiency gains in the global climate knowledge system.’ is blatant marketing and has no place here. Theroadislong (talk) 09:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

This is all content that has been sitting on this page since 2016 - this was not done by me. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 09:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

It was added back by you? Theroadislong (talk) 09:21, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

So that I could suggest edits to it on this page. You deleted the whole section that talked about what REEEP did from 2002-2016. I want to constructively suggest edits to it on this page, but I need the section there in order to suggest edits. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 09:26, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Please, we are an NGO working to provide renewable energy in low and middle income countries. I am not trying to use Wikipedia as a marketing tool. It was massively outdated so I already deleted a huge chunk that sounded very marketing-y. My goal is to update this neutrally and with current information - I will suggest the edits here as requested, but I can only suggest edits to existing content if you do not delete it. These are programmes we did, I will suggest ways of describing them more neutrally than whoever wrote them in 2016. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 09:25, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

REEEP's completed projects include:

• Beyond the Grid Fund for Zambia - a major fund which financially supported local private sector energy service providers to provide renewable energy, which resulted in over one million people connected to energy in Zambia.
• Powering Agrifood Value Chains - a project to increase the productive use of renewable energy in the food-producing agricultural sector.
• Climate Change, Clean Energy and Urban Water Works in Southern Africa - a joint REEEP-UNIDO project which aimed to increase private sector investment in renewable energy to improve municipal water works in Southern Africa.
• SWITCH Africa Green - a project with the United Nations Environment Programme which aimed to support African countries to adopt sustainable consumption and production (SCP) practices. https://www.unep.org/switchafricagreen/

Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 09:41, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I suggest the edits above, keeping the sources already referred to on the Wikipedia page. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 09:44, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Request edit on 12 March 2024

• What I think should be changed:

REEEP's completed projects include:

Beyond the Grid Fund for Zambia - a major fund to stimulate markets for off-grid electrification solutions in Zambia[7] Powering Agrifood Value Chains - a project to develop evidence-based intervention guidance for energy utilisation in the food-producing agricultural sector.[12] Climate Change, Clean Energy and Urban Water Works in Southern Africa - a joint REEEP-UNIDO project to accelerate market-based solutions for energy-related investment to improve municipal water works in Southern Africa.[13] SWITCH Africa Green - a project to support African countries in their transition to an Inclusive Green Economy and promoting sustainable consumption and production (SCP) practices and patterns.[14] Climate Knowledge Brokers Group - a community of practice that furthers improvements and efficiency gains in the global climate knowledge system.[15]

• Why it should be changed: to make it more neutral:

REEEP's completed projects include: Beyond the Grid Fund for Zambia - a major fund which financially supported local private sector energy service providers to provide renewable energy, which resulted in over one million people connected to energy in Zambia. Powering Agrifood Value Chains - a project to increase the productive use of renewable energy in the food-producing agricultural sector. Climate Change, Clean Energy and Urban Water Works in Southern Africa - a joint REEEP-UNIDO project which aimed to increase private sector investment in renewable energy to improve municipal water works in Southern Africa. SWITCH Africa Green - a project with the United Nations Environment Programme which aimed to support African countries to adopt sustainable consumption and production (SCP) practices.

• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

There are already references in the text, and I added one more reference https://www.unep.org/switchafricagreen/ Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 10:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

• Powering Agrifood Value Chains - a project which aimed to increase the productive use of renewable energy in the food-producing agricultural sector. If you need 'aimed' to make it more neutral, please. The projects mentioned here in 2016 were all projects that have now been completed. If you want more citations or anything else, please let me know and I can add them.

Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 10:41, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

References

 Not done Still promotional. Theroadislong (talk) 11:26, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

please suggest an edit - i took out solutions, innovative etc. it is a short sentence describing what the projects did. Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 11:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Request edit on 12 March 2024

• What I think should be changed:

Move this from the

It designed and implemented the Beyond the Grid Fund for Zambia,[5] funded by Sweden, which won the Ashden Award in 2019[6] and delivered energy service subscriptions to over 1 million Zambians.[7] The programme has been expanded into the Beyond the Grid Fund for Africa[7] which as of 2024 aims to reach over 8.6 million people across Burkina Faso, DRC, Liberia, Uganda and Zambia.[8]

to the section under Project Interventions

and Change the title of Project Interventions to Projects

• Why it should be changed:

To make it more neutral and add the programme text about

• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Maintain references in the text

Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 11:01, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

References

 Done , thank you for your patience. Rusalkii (talk) 07:30, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Request edit on 12 March 2024

• What I think should be changed:

In the first phase of its existence (2002-2014) REEEP acted largely as a re-granting institution, funding nearly 200 projects. The majority have targeted emerging markets such as India, China, South Africa and Brazil.

These REEEP projects attempted to address two key barriers to clean energy development, and gather and aggregate information on them:

Policy and regulation: promoting clear government policies and favourable, transparent and stable regulatory frameworks that will encourage long-term investment in renewable energy and energy efficiency Innovative finance and business models: supporting new forms of financing, risk mitigation and business models to make small-sized renewable and energy efficient projects bankable. Since 2014, REEEP has focused its work toward the targeted "de-risking" of specific markets and sectors, such as solar-powered irrigation systems in East Africa, solar-powered dairy cooling in Bangladesh, or innovative decentralized mini-grid models in Tanzania.

Regionally, REEEP has shifted concentration to low- and middle-income countries, although it continues to work in India and South Africa, which are generally considered to be emerging markets:

East Africa: Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda Southern Africa: South Africa, Zambia, Botswana Southeast Asia: Cambodia, Myanmar South Asia: India, Bangladesh, Nepal

to

In the first phase of its existence (2002-2014) REEEP acted largely as a re-granting institution, funding nearly 200 projects with donor funds. The majority have targeted emerging markets such as India, China, South Africa and Brazil. https://www.vienna-energy-club.at/index.php/news/30-reeep-awards-3-95-million-to-28-clean-energy-project, https://sciencebusiness.net/news/69359/REEEP-to-fund-49-clean-energy-projects, Since 2014, REEEP has focused its work in low- and lower middle-income countries, as per the World Bank classification, with a per capita GDP of up to USD 4,255. https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/mic/overview It has targeted the de-risking of specific markets and sectors, such as solar-powered irrigation systems in East Africa, solar-powered dairy cooling in Bangladesh or decentralized mini-grid models in Tanzania. Since 2018 it has had with a particular emphasis on productive use of renewable energy for agriculture. https://www.irena.org/-/media/Files/IRENA/Agency/Publication/2021/Nov/IRENA_FAO_Renewables_Agrifood_2021.pdf , https://www.ivecf.org/events/15101/, As of 2024, REEEP is implementing programmes in Burkina Faso, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Mozambique, Nepal, Liberia, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia. Through the Private Financing Advisory Network it operates in low- and middle-income countries in sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia, Southeast Asia, the Pacific Islands, Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Central America, and the Caribbean Islands. https://pfan.net/our-regions/

• Why it should be changed:

To update the text and make it more neutral and include references

• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Erinstewart-REEEP (talk) 11:34, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

 Partly done

First set of citations doesn't support the statements they're attached to (where is "nearly 200 projects"?). I have removed that phrase and added the two sources - they're not great but they're better than the nothing the article currently has. I've also removed some of the unsourced content.

World Bank citation just defines middle income country and says nothing about where REEP is focusing. The Irena source just uses REEP as a citation and doesn't say anything about it, and the IVECF source mentions one project it has been involved in, without saying that has been its focus or describing any of the other projects mentioned. The last source describes PFAN areas, with no mention of any connection to REEP.

Before submitting an edit request, please review every source to confirm that it actually supports the entire statement it is supposed to be supporting. One possible process is to start from sources, not text: collect reliable, independent sources (not affiliated with REEEP or partners), and then re-build this section using only information found in the sources. This is often easier than trying to find sources post-facto for an already written section. Rusalkii (talk) 17:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

References