Talk:Ratatouille the Musical

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Adding a poster/photo

I have sent an email to both Seaview Productions and Jess Siswick confirming permission to use the most widely referenced poster-style at this stage. This includes the original version from Siswick's TikTok video[1], a full version can be seen on Siswick's website[2] and the version from Seaview Productions' site, that does not include a printed title[3]. I do not believe either photo has been copyrighted, but it would be better to get solid permission. --Notbartt (talk) 17:11, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Permission was granted to me directly from Seaview for the attached photo to be used here.

File:Ratatouille TikTok Musical SeaviewProductions.jpg

Poster, currently being used by Seaview Productions in their upcoming charity benefit to celebrate the crowdsourced musical.

As I do not believe the photo to hold any particular copyright, I believe I have uploaded correctly. Happy to share the contents of the referenced e-mail if it becomes a problem in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Notbartt (talk • contribs) 13:22, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Notbartt, can you have the author follow the procedure in commons:Commons:Consent? The author needs to license the image, not just give permission to share. The email needs to come from the author and include a link your upload. Let me know if you need a hand! P.S. All new creations in the United States are copyrighted by default—the author does not need to file for copyright. czar 15:39, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the description of "Meme" and "Crowdsourced Musical"

Personally, I believe the description of "Meme" to be accurate as per the following definition "A unit of cultural transmission... that leaps from brain to brain via a process which, in the broad sense, can be called imitation"^[1] rather than the popular reductive definition as an internet joke. The "Ratatouille The Musical" phenomena, as stated in this article, began on TikTok as a remixing of the original Disney Pixar feature film and is not a real musical. The term "project" would infer that a centralised group of people have carefully planned the outcome, whereas, as we know, all known evidence can be found in various compilations and individual TikTok videos. These videos tend to imitate and remix each other also. In the case of the Siswick poster being reused throughout many videos, as well as the "Remy our Ratatouille" song being reused by users in their contributions. It is not inaccurate for this phenomena to be described as an internet meme as well as an upcoming charity benefit concert. I would also make the suggestion for there to be multiple sections within the article, one specifically for the TikTok trend and one for the upcoming Seaview event, there should be a clear distinction between the two. Anyone can contribute to the "Ratatouille the Musical" meme, even after the event, which will be a one-time production.

References

^ Dawkins, Richard (1989). "11. Memes: the new replicators". The Selfish Gene. Oxford.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: date and year (link) CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

Notbartt (talk) 16:53, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Dawkins, Richard (1989). "11. Memes: the new replicators". The Selfish Gene. Oxford.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: date and year (link) CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

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