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Hi, does anybody know why it's called 'nephelium'? Does it have anything to do with the biblical titans? Thanks Lotusduck 18:25, 19 November 2005 (UTC)lotusduck[reply]

Is it good for reforestation? For its timber / wood? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.35.1 (talk) 22:01, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Source concerns - copyright

This article is based, according to its early page history, on "a public-domain report from the Agricultural Research Service of the United States Department of Agriculture" (see base of page). However, this appears actually to be from the Rambutan page of Purdue University's Fruits of Warm Climates by Julia F. Morton; this is a copyrighted work, not USDA nor public domain. Thus it should not have been used in the first place.

As the page has been edited nearly 50 times since then with additional details from numerous wiki editors, I am a little wary of deleting the entire page as copyvio, but am editing it heavily with details (primarily botanical info) from a selection of other sources to reduce the similarity to the Purdue text.

I would however value other ideas as to the best way to proceed - should it actually be deleted and started over? If not, could other editors please make further significant changes to the aspects about which I know less (particularly the cultivation and production side). Please note that, as a species from southeast Asia, Commonwealth English spellings should be used.

Thanks - MPF 15:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As a species from southeast Asia, Malay should be used. I'll stick to the US English though, since that's what over 2/3 of the world's English speakers use and anyway I couldn't do Commonwealth English if I tried. AlbertCahalan 06:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The dialect choice is based on first-come, first-serve rather than the local interest, unfortunately. Kortoso (talk) 23:21, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edibility

Are the fruits of this tree edible. The article talks about cultivation and harvesting, but I didn't see anything about eating them. --EncycloPetey 13:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, they're edible. Remove the outer skin and then you can eat the inside, being careful of the stone in the middle. Tastes something like a grape, or a pear? Maybe? I don't know, they're nice anyway. :-) The article does talk about what they taste like, making jam out of them, etc., so I think it's implied that they're edible (maybe that text wasn't here when your comment was left). --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 07:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IMO, it tastes like lychee or cherry. you should try it. :)
114.121.23.76 (talk) 20:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve always thought the taste reminded me of pomegranate: sweet with a bit of a sharp, refreshing tang. Dodiad (talk) 06:08, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Damned delicious. I think the confusion is that there aren't any notable dishes made from it; Wiki style is not to rave on about its taste and so on. Kortoso (talk) 23:24, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Picture

Why is the second picture at the right column named "Litchis.jpg"? Fruits on the picture look more like rambutan than lychee, but the filename is confusing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trolzen (talk • contribs) 18:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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An unpeeled and a peeled rambutan, the fruit of the rambutan tree. The plant is native to the Malay Archipelago and can be found through much of Southeast Asia, although its exact distribution remains unknown. The name is derived from the Malay word rambut, which literally means 'hairy'. The fruit flesh is translucent, whitish or very pale pink, with a sweet, mildly acidic flavour.Photo: Muhammad Mahdi Karim

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The information and pictures are accurate by my assessment. Fyi, the fruit can be grown anywhere in the tropics. There is a successful plantation of rambutan on Puerto Rico, allowing a small fresh farm market in San Juan. --Zefr (talk) 00:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's good to know. Maybe you can provide a picture of the tree, since we only have the fruit here. Kortoso (talk) 23:15, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

removed text re: Costa Rican rambutan

I removed the following because it was very unclear. Does this refer to a totally different "species", or just a local cultivar of the same species? I was also completely confused about what Melicoccus bijugatus" had to do with anything until I realized it must be known in Spanish "mamón". But this could be worth clarifying and including if anyone can find a source that verifies this is actually rambutan and not another species.

"A species regularly sold in Costa Rican markets may be known as "wild" rambutan. Yellow in color, it is smaller than the usual red variety. The flesh exposed when the outer skin is peeled off is sweet and sour, slightly grape-like and gummy to the taste. In Panama and Costa Rican Spanish, it is known as mamón chino ("Chinese sucker") due to its Asian origin and the likeness of the edible part with Melicoccus bijugatus."

Dowcet (talk) 09:30, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"quality" section

This sentence under "Quality" seems to come out of nowhere and makes no sense in context: "Thus, it is common Malay folklore to not eat too much rambutan when one has a cough." PapayaSF (talk) 05:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't sure what that meant either. And the rest of the section seems un-verifiable, so I'm going to just delete the whole thing. Dowcet (talk) 07:48, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bogus remedies

The plant is being widely used for fringe "science" and "alternative treatment". Therefore it is of importance to bring the subject up already in the header. The fact that it is treated as a hoax, is dealt with by the advertisers themselves, so there is no argument(!) and it could be said they shot themselves in the leg.

Sources like blogs can be brought up exactly in cases like this, where a blog or a blog's rhetoric is the topic being discussed, just to show the point, and not to prove or disprove any extra point from the content. Please return my edit, or propose an alternative. פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 02:43, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Here's what I wrote:

Images of Rambutan are used for selling "Dr. Pearson's Diabetes Free" book and 'miracle cure' food supplement, which has been advertised as claimed by the medical establishment to be a hoax.[ref]One fruit that destroys diabetes - a website promoting Rambutan as a claimed cure to various illnesses (HealthWellness114 Wordpress blog).[/ref][ref]Banner with image of Rambutan, claiming doctors discover foods that reverse diabetes and linking to the "Dr. Pearson's Diabetes Free" method[/ref][ref]Diabetes free review - a promotional article discussing the claims by the medical establishment that the pearson method is a hoax, attempting to sell the book and refute the claims with anacdotical information.[/ref][ref]Scam Alert: Stay free of diabetes-free miracle-shake scam (San Diego Consumers Action Network website)[/ref] פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 02:44, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the claims are bogus, but the blog sources you cite are just opinions, all self-published, and are not good secondary sources for an encyclopedia. The topic is fringe (WP:FRINGE) as it is not in the mainstream of major markets, industry news, or medical databases. I think it is premature to discuss this in the article, but we can remain on watch for developments, and include the topic if it gains more public visibility. --Zefr (talk) 04:10, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeing the spike in page views I'd expect for a trendy bogus remedy (see page views here). Page views were markedly higher from June-November 2016 and a similar time frame in 2015 (with a gentle spike in multiple years, I suspect page views may follow seasonal availability of the fruit). Nor am I seeing Google results for Rambutan clogged with ads, bogus health claims, and sites debunking bogus health claims. I do see that pattern for graviola, Hoodia gordonii, moringa and Garcinia cambogia. I'm not sure it's necessary to mention health claims at this point. Plantdrew (talk) 18:55, 21 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I should have answered here first, before correcting with my second edit, with better sources: Fox News (that's not fringe media but maybe the media is "going fringe" these days...)

I agree with what you wrote about the sources in the first edit (listed above) all being self published opinions. That was fixed. I also removed the specific mention of "Dr. Pearson's method" (he may be a doctor or a king, or a famous singer, no one knows) and made it short and fitting.

I saw a picture of the plant on an advertisement and had no idea what it was. Google images found it as rambutan. The first entry of the google images search is Wikipedia. Then next ones are:

2. WikiHow: How to eat a Rambutan. Question: What health benefits are in Rambutan? Answer: It battles cancer...

3. Greenblender: What's the difference between lychee and rambutan boosting your immunity and protecting your body from free radicality... but they don't call it a super fruit for nothing...

4. Fresh culture: Rambutan Nutritional Value: A source of vitamin C and calcium, rambutan provides niacin, iron, protein and fiber. (ah, the truth, and nothing but the truth)

5. Top 15 health benefits and uses of Rambutan (listovative) The seeds of the rambutan fruit hold their own importance. When ingested, they can relieve the pain felt by diabetic patients, especially ones suffering from a specific condition known as ‘diabetes mellitus’.

(6. Rambutan.com - no health claims but many appologies about the high sugar content in their nutritional analysis)

7. What health benefits of Rambutan fruit for during pregnant... (Vegafruit) Besides it, this fruit will also help to lower cholesterol, high blood pressure, and prevent swelling of the hands and feet due to lack of smooth blood circulation during pregnancy.

(8. kingofwallpapers - image download site)

9. The Benefits of Rambutan (Rampages) working as an anti-oxidant to prevent cancer and other diseases, promoting normal functioning in the nervous system and aiding in the production of sex hormones.

<strikethrough>10. Hotel Rambutan, 11. The heart thrills blog (he hopes never to meet or eat a rambutan again) </strikethrough>

13. foodfacts.mercola.com/rambutan.html ^{[unreliable fringe source?]} What is Rambutan good for] Dr. Mercola's food facts: leaves can be used to treat fever... The seeds can also be used to help patients with diabetes... This will help you maintain your blood sugar at healthy levels... Rambutan is famous for its antiseptic properties... helps prevent cancer and oxidative damage.

and so on and so forth... Now what do you think you get if you write "Rambutan Diabetes" or "rambutan cancer". Surprise surprise:

Rambutan To Control Blood Sugar Level - All-about-beating-diabetes
Can Diabetes Patients Eat Rambutan - Kidney Cares Community
1 Fruit That “Destroys” Diabetes | HEALTH & BEAUTY
Rambutan seeds to prevent diabetes | New Straits Times | Malaysia
Treat diabetes - Wash and dried Rambutan seeds, 4 seeds per time
Rambutan Seeds for Diabetes - YouTube
Rambutan nutrition facts and health benefits |HB times
The Benefit Of Rambutan Fruit For People With Diabetes. | WORLD IN
13 Amazing Health Benefits and Uses Of Rambutan - StyleCraze
Rambutan skin anticancer – NatureWord

and on and on.

So, please put it back. Its short, its well sourced this time, and it is important.פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 13:03, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Those are all unreliable sources not useable in an encyclopedia. Spend some time reading WP:MEDRS. --Zefr (talk) 14:57, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Non-English literature

There are several published articles that are written in Indonesian that bear on this article. Is there an editor that knows Indonesian that could assess the info in these articles for inclusion here? Sbelknap (talk) 15:41, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]