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A fact from Questioning Collapse appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 October 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the book Questioning Collapse was created as a critique of the claims made by Jared Diamond in his book Collapse?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Questioning Collapse.

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 17:42, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the book Questioning Collapse was created as a critique of the claims made by Jared Diamond in his book Collapse? Source: "Their discussion expanded and developed into a volume that brings together archaeologists, cultural anthropologists, and historians to reanalyze and reinterpret Diamond's case studies and conclusions", Did They Fail? Could They Choose? - Science
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bakmi GM
- Comment: The article was moved from draftspace to mainspace with this edit.

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self-nominated at 00:25, 11 September 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Interesting article. Good to go. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC) One point: the opening sentence says "discussing how societies have developed, evolved, and collapsed". The lead then goes on to say "These authors showcased how each society did not collapse'. Suggest re-wording the initial sentence. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:59, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've added "and whether they have or have not collapsed" to clarify that point. Silver seren^C 21:56, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Silver seren and Hawkeye7: might i suggest a quirky? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:48, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ... that Questioning Collapse questions Collapse?
- I feel like that's a bit too quirky. :P And I do want the hook to explain its connection to Jared Diamond, since that's the entire point of the book in the first place. And will quite possibly get even more clicks than a quirky hook, since a lot of people would recognize the name. Silverseren^C 01:51, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fair enough! :P theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:59, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Silver seren:, @Hawkeye7: - The only mention of the book Collapse I see is in the lede and uncited. Am I mistaken? If not this will need to be fixed before the hook can be promoted. CSJJ104 (talk) 18:12, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      - @CSJJ104: I've added the books into the background section, since that's the most relevant place that's already discussing them and their contents anyways. Silver seren^C 18:18, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]