Talk:Potential Tropical Cyclone Ten

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A fact from Potential Tropical Cyclone Ten appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 August 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in August 2017, Potential Tropical Cyclone Ten caused some of the worst flooding seen in western Florida in 20 years, just two weeks before Hurricane Irma struck the same region?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Potential Tropical Cyclone Ten.

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Track Map needed

Hi. Can someone with the tropical cyclone track map editor please generate a storm track for this system? The track data is available under the "External Links" section on the main page. It would really be nice to have a storm track included in this article. Thanks. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:44, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Using `{{Infobox cyclone}}`

Technically, since this wasn't a tropical cyclone, shouldn't {{Infobox cyclone}} be used instead of {{Infobox hurricane}}? The main issue currently is that the peak intensity shows up as a category 1 hurricane even though that was achieved while the system was extratropical. ~ KN2731 {t ⋅ c} 11:54, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to use the label Potential Tropical Cyclone, which is why I used the hurricane infobox. However, that label is only available for the Current hurricane infobox, not the general hurricane infobox, so that is why it shows up the way it does right now. I don't know how to add the PTC category to the hurricane infobox, otherwise I would have already done so. LightandDark2000 (talk) 16:11, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Possible post-season designation as a tropical storm

In light of recent events (especially the 2011 and 2013 Atlantic hurricane seasons), it is possible that upon re-examination by the NHC in their post-season analysis this year, Potential Tropical Cyclone 10 will be reclassified as a tropical storm. If this happens, I will make the necessary changes to this article and move it to Wikipedia mainspace, under the title Tropical Storm Ten (2017). LightandDark2000 (talk) 03:45, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Published

I finally published this draft. This article will use the hurricane infobox, just like how Hurricane Noah created Potential Tropical Cyclone Seventeen-E with the hurricane infobox. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:50, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is no copyright violation on this article

I would like to address the copyright tag put up by a reviewer earlier today. I'm going to be blunt. This article does not have any actual copyright issues. I copied that chunk on the Potential Tropical Cyclones in the "Background" section directly from 2017 Atlantic hurricane season, and that revision dates back to June 2017, a good while before the PDF report linked in the tag was even published! Instead, it looks like the authors of that report copied from us! Also, I ran a quick check with Earwig's Copyvio Detector tool, and I seriously doubt that the article has any copyright issues. As such, I agree with Hurricane Noah's removal of the copyvio tag. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 14:06, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you plan this to be a GA and if I were to be the GA reviewer of this article, I recommend that you need to paraphrase these text, as this will not pass GA criteria 2d (it contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism). Mario Jump 83! 04:11, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. There is no copyvio issue at all. The authors of the linked report copied from us, not the other way around. In fact, they plagiarized 97.2% of the 2017 Atlantic hurricane season article! Hurricane Noah has raised the issue here. Anyone who is unaware of this should not review this article if I put it up for a GAN. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 16:35, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Understood! That's very unfortunate, though. Mario Jump 83! 01:10, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Potential Tropical Cyclone Ten/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 20:27, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"with following number" - reword
- Done. This was a typo. I fixed up the sentence. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"east cost" = typo?
- Not done. Doesn't appear to be a typo to me, as it doesn't refer to a specific designated location (such as the East Coast of the United States). "East" is used as an adjective here, not part of a name. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@LightandDark2000: They are saying you wrote cost instead of coast. Noah^Talk 21:54, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. I just realized that. Now

Done. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 22:01, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"cental pressure" - typo?
- Done. Yeah. This was a stupid typo. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"or rain" - typo?
- Done. Yet another typo on my end. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"floodwaters that were waist-deep" → "waist-deep floodwaters"
- Done. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Longbreach area" - typo?
- Done. Yeah. This should've been "Longbeach". LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"in Estero and in Bonita Springs" → "in Estero and Bonita Springs"
- Done. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's it. Great work!
Images are free-to-use.
Sources are reliable.
Every paragraph is sourced.
The article is broad in coverage.
No Copyvio / plagiarism.
Ping when done. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:36, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Some Dude From North Carolina: All done. ~~With the exception of one suggested change, as the spelling was intentional (it was not describing an actual name).~~ LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 19:48, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed that one now. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 22:01, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by source review from Destroyeraa

GENERAL: For NHC sources, the |work= parameter should be replaced with |publisher=. Also, linking the National Hurricane Center every time isn't necessary (optional). Destroyer (Alternate account) 21:54, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. That was how I had found the sources from the articles I had copied them from, but I made the changes anyway. I deleted "United States Government" from each of those sources and replaced them with "National Hurricane Center" as the publisher. I also took out the work parameters from those citations. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 22:39, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kingsif (talk) 17:57, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that in August 2017, Potential Tropical Cyclone Ten caused some of the worst flooding seen in western Florida in 20 years, just two weeks before Hurricane Irma struck the same region? Sources: The News-Press, WINK News

Improved to Good Article status by LightandDark2000 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:43, 23 July 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewed: 53W53. I think that I'm exempt from the QPQ rule, since this is my second DYK nominee, but I reviewed another candidate, anyway. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 16:42, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough and neutral. However, it includes a reference to WP:DAILYSTAR, a deprecated source (I have no idea how the GA review didn't address that but that's besides the point). Earwig did not pick up anything major. Hook is interesting and cited in article. QPQ done even though it wasn't needed (thanks for helping us reduce the backlog) but you could probably use the it when you actually need it. In a nutshell, this article would be good to go if the Daily Star reference was removed. Ping me when you've done that! Pamzeis (talk) 14:11, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Pamzeis: Done. I replaced the Daily Star source with another one. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 17:47, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replacing the Daily Star but now you've replaced it with a WP:DAILYEXPRESS source! Daily Express is considered generally unreliable so you'll have to remove/replace that too. BTW, please don't place you comments below the "Please do not write below this line or remove this line", since if you do, when it's promoted it will be outside of the blue box (if that makes sense). Happy editing! Pamzeis (talk) 02:07, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Pamzeis: While the article itself seemed to be reliable to me (doesn't mean that the site itself is generally reliable), I removed it anyway. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 03:14, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. This is good to go. Pamzeis (talk) 03:35, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Road terminology

@LightandDark2000: United States Numbered Highway System or U.S. Route 41, I usually hear "US Highway" or the omission of anything after US when describing the road. Since I'm seeing "US Route" as a possible way, I'll leave it as be. From living in Florida, the usage of road instead of route has been the norm, as shown with any Florida State Road. I don't know if that's because of FDOT using "State Road" instead of "State Route" but hey we always have to be special haha – The Grid (talk) 22:31, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]