Talk:Plunton Castle

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... that Plunton Castle, though well defended by gun loops, a ditch and a 9-foot wall, had a very rare security flaw in the arrangement of its ground floor rooms? Source: Hume, 2000, cited in the article: "...unusual feature is that the two vaulted cellars do not interconnect... ...a situation exceedingly rare in a tower of this type. A high courtyard wall did exist to compensate for this breach of security." Several of the other sources used in the article mention that the arrangement is unusual and weak defensively; details about the other security features like the gun-loops, ditch and the height of the wall come from the Gifford and Maxwell-Irving sources.
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Created by Girth Summit (talk). Self-nominated at 11:27, 3 April 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing. Newly created, long enough, reads well, no copyvio issues, no image. Will go through hook details as sources are multiple and thanks for clarifying that. Will complete soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:12, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Whispyhistory, thanks for reviewing. Just to help you out with the sources, here's Gifford: "well defended by the Plunton Burn on the W, ditch on the N... ...gunloops on the ground floor" and Maxwell-Irving: "protected by the Plunton Burn to the west, a deep ravine to the north... ...each chamber had a splayed gun-loop in its gable wall... ...all that remains of the barmkin is some tusking at the NW corner of the tower. This shows that it was about 9 ft (2.74 m) high.' A barmkin is the protected courtyard the building would have had, the height is referring to the wall. Hope that helps! GirthSummit _(blether) 10:35, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Girth Summit:... All the defences and the security flaw are followed by an inline citation to sources I don't have access to, but that's okay. One thing... the presence of gun loop and 9-foot wall is in the article, but can you explicitly say the castle is defended by each...just to make it clear, although obvious. Then it's all good to go. Whispyhistory (talk)

Hi Whispyhistory - I've added a few words about the gunloops, including a link to field of fire (which is why they were splayed), and I've added the word 'defensive' to describe the wall. Is that enough do you think? Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 15:22, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you...all clear. Pleasure to read. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:27, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know... that Plunton Castle, although well defended by gun loops, a ditch and a 9-foot (2.7 m) wall, had a very rare security flaw in the arrangement of its ground-floor rooms?

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