Talk:PlayStation Portable Slim & Lite series/2000 talk

Proposing to merge this with the PlayStation Portable article.

This product is in every respect a PSP. The old model is discontinued, and this is the current one. It is not and has never been marketed as a different product in Japan or the U.S. Calling it Slim & Lite in PAL markets was purely a decision of Sony Europe. The whole article should be condensed to two paragraphs: updated hardware specifications and basic launch information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.147.158 (talk) 06:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree that this is a newer version of the PSP, the PSP-3000 is also the newer version of this one. Condensing to two paragraphs might be a bit extreme though, there are significant feature differences, for example Skype support. Previously I was against a merge, but as these versions aren't manufactured concurrently, I'm leaning towards merging now. - FredStrauss (talk) 09:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Retail Packages

What does the Core package include? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.93.246 (talk) 16:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Battery

"Due to more efficient power usage, the runtime of the PSP is still the same as the older model. ". This is not true. The PSP slim battery lasts less long than the original due to minimised capacity. This needs to be clear, as it doesnt make a lot of sense right now. --172.202.33.3 21:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

According to Sony, the PSP Slim & Lite is more effecent than the PSP Fat, and if this is the turth, it makes perfect sense that a 60% more efficient PSP with a 20% less efficient battery will last the same amount of time. I don't know if Sony ever officially said they have the same battery life, but they did indeed say that the Slim was more effecent. 75.8.52.134 (talk) 02:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Name

What is the name of this thing? It seems that "PSP Slim" is just a fan-invented term. If so, I propose moving this to PlayStation Portable (redesign). Or better yet, merging into the main PSP article. Precedent would be the merging of Game Boy Pocket and Game Boy Light into the main Game Boy line article. hbdragon88 07:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Just as with the PS2, the redesigned PSP model doesn't have separate branding, but is frequently referred to with the word "Slim" attached to differentiate. Going by model numbers, the new model is designated as the PSP-2000 series, whereas the original model was designated as the PSP-1000 series. As for the acronym issue, PSP is the primary name for the console. The expanded form, "PlayStation Portable", is secondary. It's a bit like how "Kentucky Fried Chicken" is to KFC. Dancter 08:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, the article is at PlayStation Portable (since it can refer to so much more, like Paint Shop Pro), I figured that the redesing article should be named the same for consistency purposes. hbdragon88 02:04, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Ken Kutiragi refers to the new PSP as the PSP 2000 at E3, because of the SKU on the bottom of the device. Df747jet 06:37, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Should the name "PSP 2000" be included in the article as an "official name"? Anyone interested in doing so?--84.131.72.65 20:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

"PSP 2000" isn't a name, any more than "SCPH 70000" was for the slimline PS2 design. PSP-2000 is a model number, specifically referring the Japanese version. The North American model will be PSP-2001, the model for Oceania would be PSP-2002, etc. Dancter 22:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Ken Kutiragi? Dancter 22:21, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I know that PSP 2000 isn't a real name, but we need a somewhat "official name" for the redesign, and it seems that no other name has been used for it within Sony.(I'm the same person as IP address 84.131.72.65, I simply have a changing IP address)--84.131.119.74 18:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

The "semi-official" Three Speech blog called it the "PSP Slim & Lite"[1], probably based on the "slimmer and lighter" phrasing Sony's used in its press material, and it seems most sites and even some retailers are running with it. Sony itself has not used the name anywhere, as far as I can tell; but unless we want to go with by model numbering (which should contain the hyphen), then "Slim & Lite" is the best we have. Dancter 19:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

its slim & lite

all sources indicate it as Slim & Lite. so thats that. Jagzthebest 10:29, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

PlayStation Portable Redesign was just a title holder until the official name was revealed. By the way, which are "all sources"? Not even the article indicates this is the correct title. -- ReyBrujo 04:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, even Sony's own online store continues to refer to the new model as merely "PlayStation Portable", with the description mentioning that it's a new, smaller model, shipping "on our around 09/30/2007". They are certainly talking about this new version. play-asia calls it "Slim & Lite" and, in the absence of Sony giving us any official name for it (a lapse in public relations that seems all-too-common with Sony lately, if even only lately), i am satisfied to call it "Slim & Lite" myself. For accuracy, however, the article should not declare that to be an official name, as it has no official name other than PlayStation Portable. --69.179.48.160 05:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Its Psp

They are just calling it the Psp,because they will no longer sell the old Psp because of all its hacks and mods. The "Psp Slim" will become The psp. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmrpower (talk • contribs) 14:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The Official Name

...is PSP

Amazon.com

Amazon.co.jp

Internally at Sony it's referred to as PSP-2000. Sony of Europe's packaging is not canonical. Thank you, drive through.

Release Date

What is the release date for the normal (piano black) version? The article states September 10th for all regions and September 20th for Japan, but it also states that it will be released simultaneously for all regions. And I don't think Sony will release it later in Japan than in other regions, anyway, considering that they're Japanese.--84.131.119.74 17:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Just because a company is from a country that does not mean its products will be released in that country first.The new psp will be release in japan last.The released date is decided by fractions of that company in the regions it serves .

The release date is september 24th amazon.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.127.252.132 (talk) 01:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I bought mine (black pinao) on the 5th September 2007 in Paris/France at classic store there were plenty left. 82.216.107.35 22:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC) It seems the main is wrong pretending the release date in europe is 14 september. on the 5th September it was available in the main stores and gaming stores. Who should changes the main page ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.216.3.220 (talk) 21:26, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Amazon has now changed their USA release date for the black color to October 1st. As dissatisfying as that is, this article accurately reflects it. In addition, Sony's own online store says "Pre-sale item available on or about 09/30/2007." --69.179.48.160 05:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Why is the North American edition the top of the release date list? It was released in Europe first on the 5th which was the day before the states? Surely it should be Europe, North America and then Korea? 90.194.147.122 21:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Why are people changing the date like every hour? Slater48 01:26, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

New colors for NA to be released in November? Can anyone verify this? --Cyx7 00:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Picture

Anyone got hold of a free-licensed picture of it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.52.34.135 (talk • contribs).

Can anyone post a picture comparing the size of the old PSP vs the PSP Slim? 68.145.68.110 07:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The current picture needs to be replaced. It looks really unprofessional. As the only legal picture, it can remain until someone does a nice job of a picture (with the XMB in english at least -_- )--172.202.33.3 21:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I took a picture of mine which is available for use. See Media:psp_fred.png, I also took one with the XMB, but it doesn't look so good. With XMB: Media:psp_xmb_fred.png -- FredStrauss 12:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

PSP Phone

I just finished reading an article in Gadget magazine, T3. It showed patent details for a PSP Phone, the screen can turn 90 degrees. Should this be added to the article

No, it should not. As I have pointed out when reverting your "details" about the "WiFi iPod", a magazine is not a credible source when details about the product haven't been released by its designer. Details for a PSP Phone will be added if such a product were officially announced by Sony. Also, sign your posts. Stephen Shaw 09:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Well it showed Patent details from Sony, so there. Does that make it official 83.100.173.169 16:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you quote a patent number? Even at that, this patent could be for anything. Sony can use it for anything they like, not just a "PSP phone". I doubt Sony would leave the release of a major product such as a PSP phone in the hands of a magazine not published by them. Also, as I have said in previous articles, the article "PSP phone" would be the right place to write about a PSP phone. The article "Playstation Portable Slim" is not. I would be more than happy to see details about this product published on Wikipedia, provided they were published in the right place and were from different sources (You need more than just an article in a technology magazine). Stephen Shaw 18:23, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

No. The PSP Phone, even if it is coming, is not directly related to the PlayStation Portable console. It would be a standalone product. This will not be added in. --GSK 19:22, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The PSP Phone is a set of web pages installed on the PSP via software by a psp hacker. It is not official, nor is it relevant the the article.

Mclaren1455 15:20, 24 June 2008(UTC)

LED screen/LCD screen

Could someone please tell me what a "LED" screen is??? I've never heard of something like that before, and believe it is wrong. What kind of resolution is a LED screen supposed to have? LEDs are way too large to make a screen. What is the source for that anyway? Someone should fix or revert that if it's wrong.--84.129.79.43 22:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

An LED screen is similar to an LCD screen. It isn't that each pixel is created by a single LED. It means that the screen is backlit by LEDs. Stephen Shaw 18:24, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Then it's still an LCD screen, albeit with an LED backlight. "LED screen" means something quite different. In the context of this article, I think many readers would interpret it to mean OLED-based technology. Dancter 18:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

That must be what happened. Let's not change anything until we can confirm the specifications of the screen though. (The preceding comment was added by User:Stephen Shaw)

The LCD screen is Liguid Crystal Display.

PSP with voice chat

It would be cool if they write a version of skype for the PSP. So you can call people using the wifi. 210.84.5.222 08:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Sony probably wouldn't do that, especially since it's already available for the Mylo. --GSK 19:19, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I've recently seen an press conference that shows something called GO!Messenger that will be released for the PSP in Europe, I'm guessing that's about as close as it will come to a version of skype.Nancysing 23:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

And this isn't a forum (@ original poster). 71.178.227.4 20:40, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Firmware 3.90 has Skype. 24.36.5.172 (talk) 10:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and is there anyone here who has skype PSP and can say how it is? Camilo101 (talk) 17:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)Camilo101Camilo101 (talk) 17:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Region Locking

Does it have any? >.> 82.28.0.203 23:40, 16 September 2007 (UTC) No, it doesn't. If you change settings, you can see new icons for the japanese version, not available in the rest of the world. 83.38.52.200 02:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Homebrew enabling

What is now posted is bullshit (mod-chip vendor edit ??) The way to install a custom firmware is to use the pandora trick with a FAT PSP battery and a custom made Memory Stick. You can look in maxconsole, the reference source of information about firmwares and homebrew scene 83.38.52.200 02:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The whole section is very unclear and conflicting. 67.164.16.191 18:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Likely it seems unclear and conflicting because this section is tricky, given that it's hard to isolate what is true and what is not. Some information has been verified from enough sources so as to be beyond a doubt true, but other things which seem to have been tested as working may not have been. There are questions as to whether or not the youtube vids and the forum posts claiming ability to perform certain mods are not hoaxes. It is tough to say whether certain people are simply keeping information to themselves and the select few they choose to share the info with or if it's all just bogus claims. I do think that this section has value and should remain, but perhaps link to a well-known and accepted source of verified info on the subject such as Dark_Alex's wiki @ alek.dark-alex.org/pspwiki/index.php/Main_Page ? halfmoon 19:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Imnok1 (talk • contribs)

TV out

I saw a tv out cable in stores today, but it said it's for everything but games. Anyone know anything about this? It was appearantly a Sony product too. Is everyone just assuming it can be used with games? --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 02:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

it can be used for games, i was playing tekken and worms 2 on my friends new psp slim earlier today. 207.210.20.237 04:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

There are 2 cables available in the USA and 3 cables in Japan. The COMPOSITE (Red, Yellow, White cables) version (PSPS-150) is availible in the USA and will allow you to output only movies and audio.. not play a game using the TV. To play games on the TV screen, you need the COMPONENT (5 cable) version (PSPS-180) which will allow you to play games on certain TV's (one's that use Progressive Scan). The additional Cable availible in Japan is the PSPS-170 which has a D-Terminal cable on it which I BELEIVE, works with the D-Terminal ports availible on some TV's over there. Currently, I'm trying to convert the PSPS-170 to use a standard computer monitor to display the game picture, but it's been suggested that they may not be compatible without using an expensive adapter to switch the Y-Pr-Pb composite signal (possibly what is sent from the PSP) to a RGBHV composite signal for the monitor to accept, but I've had no confirmation on this. However, this article refers to a homebrew plugin "FuSa" that would allow me to use the Composite cables to go directly to the monitor, (I think??)? Can anyone confirm or deny that the signal would need a conversion? or confirm what type of composite video is being used? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadguy71 (talk • contribs) 14:45, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

does anyone know the specs for the component output? the maximum resolution of 640x480 seems pretty weird, does this mean that the maximum widescreen resolution is smaller? do televisions support resolutions smaller than 640x480? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.219.209.162 (talk) 06:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

It supports 720*480 output via component cables. Even higher over s-video for some odd reason 24.36.5.172 (talk) 10:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Some TVs may not display games in a size you want. The "Output Switcher" gives you a warning saying that ALL PSP Games/Videos have predetermined width/height. However, the system menu can stretch willfully to your TV. I have to hit zoom on my remote to "Cinema" for the games, but for the system, I have to go to "Wide." Humph. Yeah, I have a 16:3 or whatever it is. (Bute widescreen PS2 games don't play well ><) 66.168.19.135 (talk) 04:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

The Slim & Lite moniker is for U.K. & Europe only

It's called PSP in Japan and the United States. This article needs to be merged with the main PSP article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.147.158 (talk) 18:34, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Packaging wise? Maybe (although I have yet to see the package for a stand alone PSP-2000 product in the states). But the name PSP Slim & Lite is an officially dubbed Sony name. See ThreeSpeech Blog Strongsauce 10:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

I own a stand alone U.S. Piano Black PSP-2000. Nowhere on the packaging or the manual does it say "Slim & Lite." Same for Japanese hardware. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.147.158 (talk) 03:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I've seen accessories referring to the new PSP as the PSP-2000. Butterfly0fdoom 03:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay so you agree with my first statement that yes packaging wise the name is different. Most likely to prevent any confusion and questions between what the two products (can I play old PSP games on this "PSP Slim & Lite"? etc). But I agree that there should be discussion for merging this article with PSP. One the one hand. The PSTwo (Slim version of the Playstation 2) does not have its own page, (PSTWO redirects to Playstation 2) but the Nintendo DS has separate entries for Nintendo DS and Nintendo DS Lite. There doesn't seem to be some template or standard to follow. Strongsauce 10:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

There is a standard. See Wikipedia:Naming_conventions it explains why there is seperate articles for Nintendo DS and Lite as they are commonly refered to those names. While in the case here no one here in America knows about the Name PSP Slim and Light and would end up going to the old page about the old system. This is why I think these articles should be merged, with the possiblility of some sections split off. Sawblade05 ^{(talk to me | my wiki life)} 08:52, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with above. DS Lite is actively sold as a different model with a different name. The new PSPs seem to just be replacing the older models. Having the two articles seems kinda like making a seperate article for, say, the Greatest Hits version of Devil may Cry 3 just cuz it has some extra content. Onikage725 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Correction to above article: PSP Slim & Lite packaging label is not only in the UK and European countries. It is also in Hong Kong, and other PAL countries (including most parts in Asia). (I don't know if all PAL countries have this label)Triadwarfare (talk) 13:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Image

Note that, since the new version is already released, the current image may be deleted soon. -- ReyBrujo 01:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Accessories

A note about which PSP Phat accessories do and do not work on the Slim would probably be best. The Remote/Headset plug does not work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.125.194 (talk) 17:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Ugh, don't call it phat. Just stick with normal or original, not stupid slang.

Yes, and that's really annoying how the accessories work with PSP. I hate how I can't buy a headset for PSP and use it right away; I must but the rather crappy headphones too. I really wish Sony wouldn't scam us like that. Camilo101 (talk) 17:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)Camilo101Camilo101 (talk) 17:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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Somebody messed up the title

I didn't know where else to say this, sorry, but someone changed this article's title to "PSP Shity and Lousy". I tried to edit it but I'm rather new so I couldn't find out how. I would appreciate it if someone could edit it back to its original title, "PlayStation Portable Slim and Lite". Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camilo101 (talk • contribs) 17:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I JUST REVERTED...

I had reverted this article and talk page from GayStation Portable Slim and Lite to PlayStation Portable Slim and Lite. It is NOT GAY! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT USER? WUZ THAT VANDALISM? If it was, **** that guy! Catch ya later. iaNLOPEZ1115 (talk) 09:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

It says "The PSP Slim & Lite comes pre-installed with the "Cookies" theme, which includes additional backgrounds."

It says "The PSP Slim & Lite comes pre-installed with the "Cookies" theme, which includes additional backgrounds." Well I don't know about the PSP Slim & Lite but the "Cookies" theme is downloadable for the original PSP and doesn't include additional backgrounds. The screenshot that this text I quoted is under shows additional coloured backgrounds, though. So, if I am not mistaken, and not having a PSP Slim & Lite I don't know, it should read something more like this:

"The PSP Slim & Lite has a wider selection of background colours than the original PSP and comes pre-installed with the "Cookies" theme."

That's what I am guessing is the case, I mean.

So if that is correct could someone that knows that - cause they have a PSP Slim & Lite - edit that bit.

Also the link it sources from is broken (it's a "404 not found"). 85.211.74.214 (talk) 08:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I have a slim & lite, so I don't know what the original had. Mine comes with cookies theme already on it which includes a wallpaper (picture of a cookie if you wanted to know). Also it does include all those colours, but that screenshot is out of date, the colours are under a section called 'color', not under 'theme'. cncplyr (talk) 18:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Is this a US only thing? because all the European PSP:S&Ls I've seen over here come with the default black background and Cookies as an option in the theme menu. - X201 (talk) 09:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah! I was confusing pre-installed with default ( which the text in the article seems to suggest) - X201 (talk) 09:41, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

It's called "Tasty Treat" actually, not cookies. 66.168.19.135 (talk) 03:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Infrared?

I thought the PSP-1000 used the infrared for Game Sharing, and some AdHoc games. I may be wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.215.85 (talk) 04:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

No PSP games used the infrared. Though Sony should've left it in the Slim/Light and added support for the PS2 remote control while using TV out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.5.172 (talk) 10:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

The PS2 Remote doesn't work on the PSP-Slim, at least not the Black NTSC US ones that are out now. I have it on component, via my TV as well like you said, but the remote will not work. Or am I missing a setting I have to configure? 66.168.19.135 (talk) 03:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

PSP: Camera, GPS, TV Tuner, and Skype. Why are these not on the article??

There is no Information about these peripherals / features. The TV tuner is ATSC based (Digital HD) but is only available in Japan for the PSP-2000+ models only (incompatible with the original PSP-1000 series) and is unannounced in the US at this time (damn). GPS and the camera are tentatively dated for the Fall of 08' according to SECA in the May Official Playstation Magazine 2008. Skype is currently out on the Slim model and newer only and is available on the XMB menu —Preceding unsigned comment added by DevonTheDude (talk • contribs) 03:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Someone should add this in our article. I can't do it myself. If anyone has the time and effort to add this information, please do so.Triadwarfare (talk) 13:22, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Dimensions & Weight

there is a [clarify] on the main page regarding "19% slimmer". the original PSP was 170mm x 74mm x 23mm with a weight of 280g. the newer PSP is 169.4mm x 71.4mm x 18.6mm with a weight of 189g. the weights have been noted but not the dimensions. if we're referring to thickness alone (front to back), 23mm -> 18.6mm = approximately 19% reduction. also i believe the introductory paragraph should show only the basic percentages. the explanations of these percentages should be listed under the dimensions and weight subcategory. if you want to include the translation to inches, 23mm = .91" and 18mm = .73" halfmoon 18:44, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Battery Extended Kit information worded contradictorily

";currently only available in North America.[citation needed] The kit comes with two new battery covers, one black and one silver. In March 2008 the Extended Battery Kit was released in Japan."

This doesn't make sense. If it is CURRENTLY available only in North America, then why would the next line say it was released in Japan. Furthermore, "currently only available in in North America" is a sentence fragment where an actual sentence should be expected.

How about something like:

"; The kit came with new battery covers, one black and one silver, and is only available in North America. In March 2008, the Extended Battery Kit was released in Japan." This would show that it is only the 2 cover version that is only available in North America and not all Extended Battery Kits as the current text implies. --のぶゆきHydenobuyuki (talk) 01:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Rename for consistency?

Both PSP-2000 and PSP Slim and Lite are valid names, but, given that the new PSP is just being referred to as the PSP-3000, wouldn't it make sense to move this one to PSP-2000? Butterfly0fdoom (talk) 08:38, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, probably. As long as we can have a redirect for the current name. My feeling is that the PSP-3000 is an updated PSP-2000, not an update of the original PSP, in other words, the PSP-3000 is also a Slim and Lite. - FredStrauss (talk) 09:36, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Agreed as the current name only applies to UK and Europe. PSP-2000 seems to be a more universial name and the name would be more a worldwide view of this subject. Sawblade05 ^{(talk to me | my wiki life)} 09:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

TA-88 and Pandora...

Is this already noted in the article? Or was it removed? I'm not sure what TA-88 version I have, but I have TA-88, and my Datel Service battery tool battery works on it. 66.168.19.135 (talk) 15:18, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Hacking

Can someone find a source for the later models of the PSP-2000 (the common name for this version of the PSP) having a different motherboard (I think)? It's the reason why later versions of the PSP-2000 and all versions of the PSP-3000 have not been hacked yet. Not related to the request, but that is why I intend to buy a used older PSP when I get one (I won't play any pirated PSP games, I just want to be able to play old-school games wherever I go). TJ Spyke 06:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Technical Faults???

This article need to include the technical faults in the PSP. They can be quite frequent so they need to be mentioned. ChesterTheWorm (talk) 09:56, 14 March 2009 (UTC) ChesterTheWorm

Sounds like you've had a bad personal experience to me. If this is a significant problem, by all means prove it. Find significant coverage in reliable secondary sources and cite them here if you want other editors to actually take this suggestion into consideration. KhalfaniKhaldun 23:30, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

merging

Ritey I've looked at both this and the 3000 article and I believe they need to be merged.

• The hardware changes are VERY minor, as are cosmetic changes.
• Like the backlit GameBoy Advance SP update from sidelit, the 3000 is not a successor its an improved model of the same console with the same name
• It is still referred to by the same name, 'slim and lite' NOT the PSP-3000
• The physical changes and issues are not enough to warrant a seperate article
• Even the gameboy pocket and light didn't get seperate articles, despite improved screens (backlight in the light's case) and smaller motherboard and battery compartment etc

Obviously I will not merge until concensus is reached so what do you think? chocobogamer mine 19:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Disagree: Sony has different naming standards than Nintendo. On the PSP website, Sony refers to both as separate models (PSP-2000 and PSP-3000). Because they are not the same model, they should not be merged, just as Zune and Zune HD are not merged. --(GameShowKid)--(talk)--(evidence)--( 20:17, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

understand your logic, however marketing and packaging wise it just says 'new screen and microphone', as with the GBASP upgrade's packaging also the PS3's aren't seperate despite the 40/80/160's not having PS2 playback, 2 usb ports, card readers etc, or the different versions of the Xbox 360 (hard drives, HDMI, onboard flash memory, ODDs etc). This is where I'm coming from. Its an update to an existing model not a major overhaul like the slim was to the 100x and the go is to the 1/2/300x. Zune HD is quite an update. I'm not talking about merging into the 100x series PSP article, just into the slim article chocobogamer mine 20:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC

User:chocobogamer/pspsl a quick preview of what the combined 2000&3000 page could look like chocobogamer mine 00:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

PSP 2 Redirect?

I really think that we should remove the psp 2 redirect. Sony is releasing a new PSP model named the PSP 2/PSP2. It is completely different from the 2000 and I really think people will become confused when they see this page on the hunt for more information on the new upcoming psp model. Edit: Also, when on wikipedia, I noticed that "PSP2" redirects to the PSP 3000 series, while "PSP 2" redirects here. I feel like this is incredibly inconsistent for many reasons. For example, "PSP2" and "PSP 2" are essentially the same thing. No matter how it is spelled, you know what is being talked about. So why would you have PSP 2 and PSP2 have different redirects? For one, neither redirect should exist. The redirects in question is a confirmed, announced, future PSP release. Yet they redirect to two much older models. Even if the PSP2/PSP 2 was never announced or was real, both PSP2 AND PSP 2 should redirect to this page. Following this logic, PSP3 and PSP 3 should redirect to the 3000's page. I do not want to remove these redirects if people disagree with me. However, I feel strongly about this and I think it would help it's encyclopedic credibility. I realized my flaw. Disregard please. HOWEVER, I still have an issue with the redirects.

as i said above, PSP3000 is only a *minor* upgrade and should be part of the slim & lite article, if you remove the duplicated information its only a couple of paragraphs. there should be NO 'psp 2' redirect - the PSPGo is not PSP2, we don't even know if its going to be the 4000 series chocobogamer mine 23:31, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

chocobogamer you failed to understand me. Why does PSP2 redirect here, while PSP 2 redirects to the 3000's page. That's very inconsistent.

PSPgo is not part of the original PSP console series; PSPgo has a model number of "N1000". --(GameShowKid)--(talk)--(evidence)--( 00:01, 27 June 2009 (UTC)