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Removal of "If no resistance was met, the residents could stay put"

I removed the following from the lead as being false (see the Pappé footnote/quote):

In case of resistance, the population of conquered villages was to be expelled outside the borders of the Jewish state. If no resistance was met, the residents could stay put, under military rule.^{[qt 1]}^[1]^[2]^[3]^{[disputed – discuss]}^[4]

References

^ MidEast Web, Plan Daleth (Plan D)
^ Yoav Gelber (January 2006). Palestine, 1948: war, escape and the emergence of the Palestinian refugee problem. Sussex Academic Press. pp. 98–. ISBN 978-1-84519-075-0. Retrieved 14 April 2011.
^ Ten years of research into the 1947-49 war - The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined. By Dominique Vidal. Le Monde diplomatique. December 1997.
^ Pappé 2006, "Whereas the official Plan Dalet gave the villages the option to surrender, the operational orders did not exempt any village for any reason."

- IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 19:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pappe

Pappe describes plan D as follows: "The orders specified how the expulsion would take place: large-scale intimidation, laying siege to villages, bombing neighbourhoods, setting fire to houses and fields, forced expulsion and, finally, the planting of TNT in the rubble to prevent any of the expelled inhabitants from returning. Each military unit received a list of villages and neighbourhoods to be demolished and its inhabitants to be expelled." - p.9 The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories

It is an interesting overview that doesn't seem to be described this way in this article? Makeandtoss (talk) 10:44, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

False dichotomy

Controversy section seems original research and has a false dichotomy between an "offensive" ethnic cleansing and a defensive nothing. Ethnic cleansing was the undisputed outcome; whether it was marketed as defensive or offensive by Israel is irrelevant. Same as the 1967 war the outcome was a brutal military occupation; whether it was marketed as defensive or offensive war is irrelevant. Makeandtoss (talk) 09:52, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced info

I removed from the article the following: "On the Jewish side, the number of those killed during the execution of the plan was 1,253, of which 500 were civilians." This sentence was accompanied with a citation needed tag which included the text "reason=not in Morris". IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 05:55, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of content

I rewrote the 'Outcome' section, removing the following:

According to Benny Morris, the Plan's execution lasted about eight weeks, beginning April 2.^[1] In these weeks, the Yishuv's position changed dramatically. Many Arab leaders left the country and local leadership collapsed. Jewish military operations precipitated a mass exodus of 250,000–300,000 people.^[2] According to Benny Morris, this "massive demographic upheaval ... propelled the Arab states closer to an invasion about which they were largely unenthusiastic".^[3]

References

^ Morris, 2004, p. 165
^ Morris, 2004, pp. 262–263
^ Morris, 2004, p. 263

-IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 11:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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[MEW-2] MidEast Web, Plan Daleth (Plan D)

[Gelber2006-3] Yoav Gelber (January 2006). Palestine, 1948: war, escape and the emergence of the Palestinian refugee problem. Sussex Academic Press. pp. 98–. ISBN 978-1-84519-075-0. Retrieved 14 April 2011.

[Diplo-4] Ten years of research into the 1947-49 war - The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined. By Dominique Vidal. Le Monde diplomatique. December 1997.

[5] Pappé 2006, "Whereas the official Plan Dalet gave the villages the option to surrender, the operational orders did not exempt any village for any reason."

[6] Morris, 2004, p. 165

[7] Morris, 2004, pp. 262–263

[8] Morris, 2004, p. 263

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