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Regarding our discussion. Could you return my edits which were undone on the list of genocides talk page? I feel I was unduly censored Terrainman (talk) 10:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ScottishFinnishRadish. See also User talk:Terrainman#Introduction to contentious topics. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 11:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just want clarification, a link to the rule, or somesuch.. Terrainman (talk) 11:19, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, and I don't believe the rules are anywhere properly explained.

But basically, you can't make edits which are about or involve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. So you can make edits to the page List of genocides, as long as those edits are about any of the other genocides except for the Gaza genocide, since the Gaza genocide is a part of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 11:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I'm let down since I made what I think were quite important remarks regarding the topic. But I understand the reason for the rule. Terrainman (talk) 11:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for understanding, it's an unfortunate measure. But it's in place to prevent bad faith actors from disrupting Wikipedia which has been and remains an issue. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 11:55, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, for what it's worth see Talk:List of genocides/Archive 15#RFC - Inclusion of Gaza genocide for the discussion which resulted in consensus to include the Gaza genocide in the List of genocides article. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 11:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arbitration motions regarding Palestine-Israel articles

The Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:

Motion 1: Appeals only to ArbCom

When imposing a contentious topic restriction under the Arab-Israeli conflict contentious topic, an uninvolved administrator may require that appeals be heard only by the Arbitration Committee. In such cases, the committee will hear appeals at ARCA according to the community review standard. A rough consensus of arbitrators will be required to overturn or amend the sanction.

Motion 2b: Word limits

Uninvolved administrators may impose word limits on all participants in a discussion, or on individual editors across all discussions, within the area of conflict. These word limits are designated as part of the standard set of restrictions within the Arab-Israeli conflict contentious topic. These restrictions must be logged and may be appealed in the same way as all contentious topic restrictions.

Motion 2c: Word limits

All participants in formal discussions (RfCs, RMs, etc) within the area of conflict are urged to keep their comments concise, and are limited to 1,000 words per discussion. This motion will sunset two years from the date of its passage.

Motion 5: PIA5 Case

Following a request at WP:ARCA, the Arbitration Committee directs its clerks to open a case to examine the interaction of specific editors in the WP:PIA topic area. Subject to amendment by the drafting arbitrators, the following rules will govern the case:

The case title will be Palestine-Israel articles 5.
The initial parties will be:
- BilledMammal (talk · contribs)
- Iskandar323 (talk · contribs)
- Levivich (talk · contribs)
- Nableezy (talk · contribs)
- PeleYoetz (talk · contribs)
- Selfstudier (talk · contribs)
- האופה (talk · contribs)
Aoidh will be the initial drafter
The case will progress at the usual time table, unless additional parties are added or the complexity of the case warrants additional time for drafting a proposed decision, in which case the drafters may choose to extend the timeline.
All case pages are to be semi-protected.
Private evidence will be accepted. Any case submissions involving non-public information, including off-site accounts, should be directed to the Arbitration Committee by email to Arbcom-enwikimedia.org. Any links to the English Wikipedia submitted as part of private evidence will be aggregated and posted on the evidence page. Any private evidence that is used to support a proposal (a finding of fact or remedy) or is otherwise deemed relevant to the case will be provided to affected parties when possible (evidence of off-wiki harassment may not be shared). Affected parties will be given an opportunity to respond.

Addendum

In passing motion #5 to open a Palestine-Israel articles 5 case, the Committee has appointed three drafters: Aoidh, HJ Mitchell, and CaptainEek. The drafters have resolved that the case will open on November 30. The delay will allow the Committee time to resolve a related private matter, and allow for both outgoing and incoming Arbitrators to vote on the case. The drafters have changed the party list to the following individuals:

The drafters reserve the right to amend the list of parties if necessary. The drafters anticipate that the case will include a two week evidence phase, a one week workshop phase, and a two week proposed decision phase.

The related Arbitration enforcement referral: Nableezy et al request has been folded into this case. Evidence from the related private matter, as alluded to in the Covert canvassing and proxying in the Israel-Arab conflict topic area case request, will be examined prior to the start of the case, and resolved separately.

For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust 💬 05:26, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Arbitration motions regarding Palestine-Israel articles

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