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Sinag Pilipinas

I think we should also work on how to include Sinag Pilipinas into the article. This article is supposed to contain info for the Philippine men's basketball team. We even make mention of the SEABA and SEA Games, some of the recent wins on these tournaments are actually represented by Sinag. Israformales (talk) 06:39, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tournaments

Tournament not necessary to be in the article of the Philippines national basketball team

The William Jones Cup is not a major and regional competition for national teams - its a rather national teams and club teams competition and the Philippines national team only played in 1998 and the recent ones 2005 and 2006 tournaments.
The FIBA Asia Champions Cup is a major tournaments for the best club teams in Asia and therefore it should not be in this article. Although the Philippine squads that played in 1984, 1985 and 2005 tournaments were the entire national team but they played in the tournament as a club team, known as the San Miguel Philippines, not as a national team.
The Brunei Cup is an invitational tournament, its not a regional tournament and it just happened that the national team played in this tournament. Just because the national team is about to win it for the second time, it doesn't mean we have to put it in the article. Although, we can mention it in the 2005-present section.

That's all thanks!... peads 02:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'm for deleting the Champions Cup and the Brunei Cup. I am still to be convinced about the Jones Cup, though. --Howard the Duck 02:44, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Jones Cup can be acceptable but I think Filipino teams maybe from 1998 ca be acceptable... its up to you Howard... you can put back the William Jones Cup results from 1998.. peads 02:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure the Jones Cup also admits club teams? If it admits club teams, then it should be removed. However, the latest games should also reflect the last 10 games the national team, regardless they're listed at the tourneys section. --Howard the Duck 03:08, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The United States were represented last year by the Passing Lane (CBA or NBDA team?) and this year by the Athletes in Action (a select team)... other countries like Korea (University team), Japan (under-24 team), Australia (under- 19 team - 2006, Great Mates - 2002), Russia (Samarra - 2005), Canada (Victoria University - 2001).... Although, some countries consistently compete their national teams like the Philippines, Taiwan, Kazakhstan and even those beatable national teams... peads 03:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well then it should be removed here, but can those records be added on some other articles? --Howard the Duck 03:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the current section of Latest Results should be maintain but the Jones Cup I'm not sure... 1998 Results was already in the Philippine Centennial Team section but maybe you can create the article - Philippines in the William Jones Cup .. peads 03:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about adding them to "Other tournaments". Then place the Far Eastern Games to the Asian tournaments (its the forerunner of the Asian Games). Also, which of those tournaments are FIBA-sanctioned? --Howard the Duck 03:48, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can add the Jones Cup from 1998 results to the present... the only known Philippine result before 1998 were 1981 and 1984 where the San Miguel Philippines won the championships... the William Jones Cup and the Far Eastern Games are not a FIBA-sanctioned tournaments peads 04:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I understand now. I'm willing to leave out the Jones Cup here, but if we will include them, we should put them at "Other tournaments" that will be renamed into "Non-FIBA-sanctioned tournaments" along with the FEG. --Howard the Duck 04:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I agree with you... you can put the Jones Cup results in the "Non-FIBA-sanctioned tournament" along with the Far Eastern Games... that should be fair enough.. peads 04:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's good enough for me. --Howard the Duck 04:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Red uniform

I have yet to see a Philippine team wearing red... or maybe it's an old uniform? --Howard the Duck 11:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Philippine team wore red in the 2002 Asian Games. Try visiting this website for some picutes -> 2002 Asian Games - Philippine Basketball team

Shortcut

You can use ~~{{PHI-b}}~~ {{bk|PHI}} -- it'll come up as Philippines. --Howard the Duck 10:46, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Harbour Center

Should the Harbour Center RP-Team be included in this article? Leoisiah 11:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can create a Philippines national under-18 basketball team or whatever age bracket HB's team would be. --Howard the Duck 12:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Roster

If anyone can create roster navboxes for the following tourneys, it'll be great:

OLY 1936
OLY 1948
OLY 1952
FIBA 1954
OLY 1956
FIBA 1959
OLY 1960
OLY 1968
OLY 1972
FIBA 1974
FIBA 1978

--Howard the Duck 07:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question

whats wrong with that?

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--Mervynbunique (talk) 16:33, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why no roster?

How come there is no current roster on this Page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.194.29.82 (talk) 00:13, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Listed roster IS NOT YET FINAL!

The roster listed in the section "Current Roster" is not the current roster. It is simply a selection pool from which, along side the Cadets team, the final 12 players will be selected prior to tournaments. BULARAN (talk) 08:39, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hidden for the meantime... –H T D 08:48, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Listed roster was damned!

The roster listed in the section "Current Roster" was pissed by other unknown users. please respect the page, don't do anything with it and on it!. LUNA (talk) 10:47, 06 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.54.203.22 (talk) [reply]

Inappropriate logo

I think we should consider using the logo of Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas, the Philippines' national basketball federation, in the article. Articles about the national basketball teams of other countries do the same thing. (Theenjay36 (talk) 09:43, 17 September 2014 (UTC))[reply]

The name "Gilas"

Does anyone know what the word "Gilas" translates into English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.161.132.66 (talk) 07:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The word "Gilas" can be translated into different English word such as quickness, speed, agility, swiftness, alertness, and the likes. The word "Gilas" was selected because of its' uniqueness and it shows the true character of the team that fights with their "puso" even if they are small in this sport.

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 22:04, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Philippines men's national basketball team → Philippines national basketball team – "Philippines national basketball team" is already enough to be the name of the article instead of a redirect. The same thing is done in most articles of other national basketball teams. But if you want to distinguish it from our women's national team, use this template on the top of the article:

{{about|the men's team|the women's team|Philippines women's national basketball team}}

Theenjay36 (talk) 14:29, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support: It stands to reason. Asturkian (talk) 18:46, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as unnecessarily sexist. A significant portion of national men's teams include the wording "men's" in their Wikipedia titles including the notably prominent: the Australia men's national basketball team, the Canada men's national basketball team, the China men's national basketball team, the England men's national basketball team, the Great Britain men's national basketball team and the reportedly iconic United States men's national basketball team. Admittedly the Philippines women's team have not had the same level of international success as the men's team in recent competition but a search on "Philippines men's national basketball team" got the same number of results as a search on "Philippines national basketball team". There is no WP:UCRN argument here. Current connections between articles work fine and WP:Criteria consistency can also be related directly to the Philippines women's national basketball team within which the gender of the players gets clear mention. Section headings in articles such as Philippines men's national basketball team divide the sport into men's tournaments and women's tournaments. Gregkaye ✍♪ 14:29, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - In the Philippines, both sexes are allowed to play basketball, although not all together. Men's basketball and women's basketball are needed in such titles. Even when there is no women's basketball in one country, a title should always be "<country> men's national basketball team" to avoid ambiguity. --George Ho (talk) 19:14, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Merger proposal

I propose that Smart Gilas be merged into Philippines men's national basketball team. I think that the content in the Smart Gilas article could easily be explained in the context of Philippines men's national basketball team as part of the history section. Most of the content in Smart Gilas article is redundant and Smart Gilas is the Philippines men's natioanl team therefore it is like having two articles of the same topic. Thepantomimehorse (talk) 15:36, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Smart Gilas is not Philippines men's national basketball team but just a program made for the Philippines men's national basketball team, just like the PBA's Centennial program and San Miguel's Northern Cement basketball team. they should have different pages for separate references, the National Team's page is a general page of the team and there are some references/details from Gilas that should not be part of the National Team's page because only summaries of such programs are included in it. We hope you can reconsider separating such this two different pages. 24 January 2016

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The roster for the World Cup qualifiers is complete.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/amp/sports/02/15/22/fiba-bares-gilas-lineup-for-world-cup-qualifiers 122.54.102.0 (talk) 15:29, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: See note at the bottom of the FIBA website used in the news article: "Rosters displayed do not necessarily correspond to the rosters that will play at the FIBA Basketball World Cup 2023 Asian Qualifiers. The final 12-players rosters will be confirmed following the Technical Meetings & eligibility checks, which will take place before each game." This is just the pool, not the final 12. ^{Engr. Smitty Werben} 15:32, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]