Talk:Paul Harvey/Archive 1

Listening audience

Someone reverted an edit I made that cites the source quoted as not being approriate. This source is Citzenlink, and it's a direct quote from a first source researched biographical book on the subject of Paul Harvey. How is this not a approriate source? Godfollower4ever (talk) 21:29, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Previous discussions without headers

What about the numerous references in Freakazoid? 167.206.128.33 21:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is either this Paul Harvey, or the astronomy professor mentioned at the bottom, the same Paul Harvey who composed the piano piece Rumba Toccata? -- Smjg 15:40, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Winston Churchill preferred negotation to conflict, saying "Jaw, jaw is better than war, war."

"Factually inaccurate"? Citation, please. Brithgob 21:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His News and Comment runs at 106 PM EST Monday through Friday, not 1130 AM. I work as a Program Director at a station that runs Mr. Harvey... -- User:67.53.188.146

It varies by city. The noon program is fed to affiliates via satellite at 11:06 am and 12:06 p.m. Eastern time. Affiliates run the program when they choose. The morning news is fed live at 8:30 a.m. Eastern. -- Gridlock Joe 22:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding feed times of broadcasts, at the time of his death, this was the full ABC Radio schedule:

a) Morning Report (4 minutes of content plus minute of embedded network inventory)
Weekdays at 8:30 a.m. ET (refeed at 9:30 a.m. ET)

b) Midday (11 minutes of content plus 3 minutes of embedded network inventory, plus a 1 minute local avail for a total of 15 minutes)
Weekdays: 11:35 a.m. ET / 12:06 p.m. ET (refeed at 1:06 p.m. ET)
Weekends: Saturday (4:30 minutes of embedded network inventory) 11:10 a.m. ET (reefed at 12:10 p.m. ET)
Also fed at 10:45 a.m. ET (prefeed) and 1:10 p.m. ET
We also send a prefeed of the Saturday report at 7:25 p.m. ET on Fridays

c) Afternoons (4 minutes of content plus :30 embedded network inventory)
Weekdays at 2:06 p.m. ET (prefeed) 3:06 p.m. ET
Weekends: Saturdays at 8:30 a.m. ET (refeeds at 9:30 a.m. ET and 10:30 a.m. ET)

Source: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/40778642.html Kathon (talk) 17:16, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism

Mr. Harvey has also been criticized for his "rest of the story" segment using urban legends as facts, including, most notably, his rest of the story on Mel Gibson. 68.12.224.100 18:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ThinkProgress.org does not cite any other source for the claim about what Paul Harvey said about the weapons "in their silos." I spent quite some time looking for a source on this, and could find no reliable sources. Most cite each other. There is not a single reference to it in any academic site or mainstream news site. The lack of reliable sources, coupled with the fact that things like this are falsely attributed to people like Paul Harvey and Andy Rooney all the time (see snopes.com for myriad examples), mean that the the passage is certainly false. Penitent 01:29, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The simple fact that Harvey made Olberman's list does not qualify as criticism, especially since the Olberman link doesn't refer to any specific mention of Harvey. With better sourcing, the items above may be suitable for that section. But for now, no criticism sourcing =- no criticism section.

Depression? I heard that Paul Harvey suffers from severe depression and has had ECT performed on several occasions. any sources?

What happened to the "sugar candy" monologue?

Why is the "sugar candy" monologue no longer here? I see someone removed it here without comment; was not restoring it just an oversight? I'd expect to see some discussion here if that were not the case. superluser_tc 2007 August 03, 05:34 (UTC)

This guy above me is right...why is this rant not mentioned in Harvey's article? It's obviously noteworthy, and can be heard here on youtube: [1]. Killerflamingoes (talk) 06:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1951 event cross links here, but no connection

According to the 1951 article, "February 6 - Paul Harvey arrested for trying to break into Argonne National Laboratory." Seems like a significant event to not be mentioned here. Was this done by the same Paul Harvey? Stifynsemons 12:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I followed the same path as you did to end up in this article, and added a link to an online news story for others who might be curious. Yes, it seems to be the same Paul Harvey. betsythedevine 12:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

how did paul harvey impact oklahoma

how did he impact the state of oklahoma??? 9\11/07

I believe he is included because he was born there. 71.142.91.222 04:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Harvey (actor) disambiguation needed

I just added a stub for the notable American actor by the same name: Paul Harvey (actor) Several other pages were incorrectly linking to this one. Now somebody should add a disambiguation line to the top of this article. If nobody cares to or notices this note, then I will add it when my four-day new-user lockout is over. --Isingbass76 22:58, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The disambiguation link has been added. Isingbass76 (talk) 04:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fillers

Ok, so how about a section on people who fill in for paul. His son is one. Is there a guy by the name of bill gross or something?__Mace Windu 01:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC) Keith Olbermann also substituted for Paul at least once, while he was between TV jobs. 192.127.94.7 (talk) 19:00, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 04:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

arr, gone.

I do see that Argonne is mentioned above; but it is not in the actual article. Considering that it is published on a government webpage, & seemingly well written, I do not comprehend why most, or all, of it is not simply copied. With these factors the only necessary editing is regarding any format corrections to fit these pages. Is there any assertion that it is less than accurate?

I just learned of this from Keith_Olbermann, msnbc.

< http://www.anl.gov/Media_Center/News/History/news960206.html >.

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Paul Harvey different from Bill Stern

There was one distinct difference between Paul Harvey's Rest Of The Story and Bill Stern: Harvey at least tries to verify all of his items and would not knowingly spread an urban legend. Since this page is locked, I posted this info on the Paul Harvey Quotes stub. Also, you might want to note on external links that Paul Harvey News up to 7 days old can be heard on his official website, both morning and noon broadcast, but not Rest Of The Story, which is never archived there. He also seems to get some of his items from Ripley's Believe It Or Not, and Ripley was never proved wrong on any of his stories. Scifans (talk) 09:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Harvey riddle

I don't know if this is worth adding, but it gets a ton of google hits:

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=paul+harvey+riddle&meta=

78,600 to be precise.

The content is this:

'The riddle: What is greater than God, More evil than the devil, The poor have it, The rich don't need it, And if you eat it, you'll die?

The answer to the riddle is "nothing." Nothing is greater than God. Nothing is more evil than the Devil. The poor have nothing. The rich need nothing. And if you eat nothing, you'll die.'

Worth adding or not? A well known e-rumour Dyinghappy (talk) 00:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good one, but I very much doubt it's original to Harvey, as most of his material comes from elsewhere. And that's the rrrrrrrrrest of the story. :) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 01:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was not saying it was original to Harvey. It is attributed to him, however. It is in various "busting e-rumour" web sites, and every single time the allegation is that he wrote it, all proven false. Do we include such things? It just seemed odd that Wikipedia would be the one place where it doesn't mention this well-known e-rumour. Dyinghappy (talk) 02:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's just a cute riddle. "Rumour"? A rumour (or rumor) would be that he had a fling with Kate Smith or something. This is just a story often credited to him. So, if you can either find evidence that he has told this story, or evidence that he has not, from reliable sources, then you've got a fact. The next question is whether the fact is notable or important enough to be part of an article about Harvey. That could prove to be your larger challenge. He's told thousands of stories over the years. What's the big deal about this one? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 03:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

79,700 google hits, and the fact that I got the same stupid "riddle" 4 times, it has write ups in snopes and yahoo questions and various other reliable places. That's what makes it notable. Dyinghappy (talk) 11:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Calling it a "rumour" implies some sort of scandal. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 12:58, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The term "rumour" is not my wording, it is from all of the various myth-busting web sites. If you prefer the term "myth" then go with that. There is no scandal; it is merely something that is falsely attributed to him. Dyinghappy (talk) 03:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have those myth-busting websites determined the true origin of this riddle? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 03:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As per usual, the snopes version is the best [2]. Unfortunately, even they couldn't figure out where the riddle came from. Dyinghappy (talk) 18:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recent Voice Problems

Is there any information on the recent degradation of his voice quality? The tone and volume of his voice is notably weaker than a couple of years ago and I wondered if there had been any particular medical event. His current limitation seems a bit beyond the semi-paresis imposed by advancing age--more typical of nerve damage to the pharyngeal musculature of known or unknown etiology. His entire career and public life rests on his vocal production, so the matter is relevant for entry here. 70.130.36.59 (talk) 23:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The man is 91. And paresis is a consequence of syphillis, so be careful what you say here. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 23:40, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What is it with this article

Just casually I have visited this again after maybe a 7 month period. There were several things in the article that were interesting , notably that he was discharged with a section 8 from the military and that he stole an airplane of all things and then the "sugar candy" story was removed I guess and then the story (although in discussions ) of his trying to break into the Argonne lab. This all points to the problem with Wikipedia -- that if it gets controversial you cannot depend on its validity. What is the use in a continually changing story -- what is truth-- or do I not get Wikipedia? 138.163.0.43 (talk) 15:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ip editors and cause of death

I have placed a 3 day semi-protection on this article, so various imaginative causes of death may not be placed by a slew of ip editors. Once the cause of death is established and cited, please request lifting of protection. LessHeard vanU (talk) 01:41, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Harvey has been dead nearly two years. Do we have any information on the cause of death? 98.191.220.101 (talk) 00:06, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

grammar suggestion

{{editsemiprotected}}The text in the first paragraph includes a sentence starting with, "He broadcasted News and Comment'"...

The past tense of "broadcast" is most often "broadcast", not "broadcasted".

Would an established user kindly make this correction? Thanks! Bikerbudmatt (talk) 02:27, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Already done haz (talk) 14:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please make this Correction: Does anyone else believe that it was a "vacation" when he came down with pneumonia and then took extra time off when his wife died shortly after that? I think an established user should change that particular sentence under his "CAREER" to something more appropriate, like, "causing him to prolong his absence".Panther505 (talk) 03:35, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Already done haz (talk) 14:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar Fixes for 2nd Para

Please replace:

"The most noticeable features of Harvey's idiosyncratic delivery was his dramatic pauses, quirky intonations and his folksiness."

with:

"The most noticeable features of Harvey's idiosyncratic delivery were his dramatic pauses, quirky intonations, and folksiness." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amohr (talk • contribs) 05:37, 1 March 2009

Done I've adjusted the sentence. haz (talk) 14:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lynne Harvey

The bulk of the info about Lynne Harvey should really go in her bio, not here, hers is underdeveloped and it has undue weight here. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 05:50, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Hardley

Is anyone aware of a "Paul Hardley" or "Paul Hardly" character that was on syndicated FM morning show in the 1990s, at least in the southern U.S.? It was 5-minute spoof of Paul Harvey that was part of the morning show, replete with all the vocal mannerisms. It was not locally produced to my knowledge. If enough people have heard of this, it might be good for a cultural reference. -Rolypolyman (talk) 18:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Natural causes?

They still don't know he died, but my friend told me he died of old age. He was 90, so it seems like it was the cause. But is natural causes true, or did something else kill him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.37.139 (talk) 02:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Protestant

An editor has been continually adding this article to the "American protestants" category, which has been continually removed as no source has apparently been presented, and no supporting statement is currently in the article. The editor in question keeps returning it claiming we are "wrong" that it isn't in the article. As you can see right now, there is no mention of the word "protestant" in this article, so a source needs to be presented. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 19:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article currently contains the following paragraph, including three citations:

Harvey was a convert to the Seventh-day Adventist Church. He was baptized into the church around the year 2000. Harvey regularly attended the Camelback Adventist Church in Scottsdale, Arizona during his winters there. He often quoted Adventist pioneer Ellen G. White in his broadcasts and received the "Golden Microphone" Award for his professionalism and graciousness in dealing with the church. [3][4][5]

Having said this, however, all interested editors should review the section toward the top of this Talk Page labeled "Seventh Day Adventist?". This discussion raises doubts about whether Harvey was formally an Adventist or only a "fellow traveler", as it were. The source for the statement that Harvey formally converted in 2000 appears to be this page at adherents.com; however, the source given on that page seems to be a dead link, and I couldn't find any other sources for the alleged 2000 conversion that didn't seem to be mirrors of adherents.com or Wikipedia. Paul Batura's recent biography[6] states that Harvey was not a baptized Adventist and actually baptized in 1971 (this is at pp.183-185: using the Amazon.com reader, search the words "baptism" and "baptized" to get to the applicable pages). The book does, however, make a clear (if agenda-driven) case for Harvey's status as a committed Christian. Other sources mention that he came from a long family line in the Reformed Church.

So, as discussed in the earlier section here, there's a lot to suggest that the 2000 Adventist conversion may be what some Adventists refer to as an "Adventist Urban Legend": Harvey and his wife were obviously friendly to the Adventist cause, but perhaps not members themselves. His status as a non-specific Protestant seems clearer, however. Thus, it appears that as between Category:American Seventh-day Adventists and Category:American Protestants it is more judicious to use the more general category.

--Arxiloxos (talk) 20:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you are unable to link him to any specific denomination, and only have quotes saying he was a "devoted Christian," wouldn't Category:American Christians be more apt? --OuroborosCobra (talk) 02:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point. Although there's certainly no suggestion he was Catholic or Orthodox, and it was not illogical for the other editor to put him in with the Protestants, you may well be right that "American Christians" is more appropriate, unless and until more specific info turns up. And the paragraph about Adventism needs to be supplemented with the contrary info noted above.--Arxiloxos (talk) 02:32, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If he did regularly attend the Camelback Adventist Church though he wasn't a formal member then I'm not sure if it would be fair to say he was a Seventh-day Adventist but it would be fair to say he was a Protestant. --Protostan (talk) 03:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, here's what Paul Batura says (handtyped by me from p.182, typos are possible):

In his religious observances, Harvey was not overly concerned about the doctrinal differences within particular Christian denominations. Though a descendent of five generations of Baptist ministers, his earliest years were spent in First Presbyterian in Tulsa . . . he later worshipped right near his house at the Church of God . . . For the rest of his life, he and Lynne would swing back and forth between varying congregations, depending upon where he was living on any particular Sunday.

(He goes on to mention Harvey's connection with a Baptist church in Dallas and a Presbyterian one in Chicago, as well as the Adventists in sunny Arizona.) These are all indeed Protestant churches. Nevertheless, under standard Wikipedia sourcing rules, I agree with OuroborosCobra that since the sources all use the word "Christian" and not "Protestant" it's more appropriate to use "Christian" for the category--especially given the overall message here that Harvey didn't care about doctrine, and was more interested in the basic Christian message.--Arxiloxos (talk) 03:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the question now is did he identify himself as a member of any church in his final years? --Protostan (talk) 04:05, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are free to present an actual source if you can find one. You are not free to speculate an answer that is not actually in the source. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 04:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HP purported did NOT circulate this UL.

" However, at least one urban legend has been circulated with Harvey as the purported source,[15] ..." If you check the source, you'll discover that the stress is on PURPORTED - the author strongly indicates that this is NOT a PH story -jus tthe sort of story that the author claims PH perpetrated. This in effect makes using this ref. and the sentence -- at least as it stands -- improper here. Kdammers (talk) 02:33, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Political Leanings?

How come there's no section on Mr. Harvey's political leanings?

I would be glad to add that, if need be.

-Pat

K8cpa (talk) 12:56, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ten years later, I'm wondering the same thing. Ishboyfay (talk) 05:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Marconi Awards

He has won 5 Marconi awards, beating out Rush Limbaugh and Bob and Tom, who have won 4. He has won more than anyone and was the first to win. SOURCE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.57.172.129 (talk) 00:44, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If I were the devil

recording is going viral again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwahotPj3XU

Snopes says 1/2 of it is attributable to harvey, half was made up later, but a recording in harveys voice seems pretty conclusive. Anyone have any evidence as to if the entire thing is harvey?Gaijin42 (talk) 14:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Source of lengthy note?

There's a lengthy unattributed note that starts "Harvey guided his black Cadillac Fleetwood...." Seems like a source attribution should be added; however, the preceding ANL reference is a broken link. jxm (talk) 05:08, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's an excerpt from the Joe Stephens Washington Post article cited as footnote #2. --Arxiloxos (talk) 05:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Tag

Added tag saying that the lead is too short.Catfurball (talk) 20:22, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Chicago

Harvey was a booster of Chicago. He often pronounced his love of the city on his programs. Is there a secondary source for this?Kdammers (talk)

Bohemian Grove attendance

I opened the art studio during the Encampment of 2006, I think for him and his Bohemian Club member sponser who evidently was an artist trying to sell a piece of art. Mr Harvey was a nice guy, apparently it was a private showing. 24.116.115.90 (talk) 23:45, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]