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A fact from Palestinian right of armed resistance appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 September 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that arguments in favor of a Palestinian right of armed resistance are often based on Article 1(4) of Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Palestinian right of armed resistance.

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@Nishidani: can you give some feedback on the content of this article.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 01:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of reference issues while you wait: (a) the named reference "Swisher" (currently #33) is not defined in the article and (b) Shendi (2010), invoked in references #44 and #49, is missing from the bibliography. Thanks, Wham2001 (talk) 07:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let me try to dig those up.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 12:19, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @DuncanHill for fixing it. VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 21:20, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't found Swisher. DuncanHill (talk) 21:24, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Levivich, selfstudier can you give me feedback on this article? Is it missing any major perspectives? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 20:35, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping, I'll give it a read. Levivich (talk) 16:26, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Vice regent: Interesting article and important subject, thanks for writing it! Here are some thoughts in no particular order:
- In terms of major perspectives, I think the articles covers them; I'm not aware of any others, but then I don't know much about this topic
- I noticed in some places the articles seem to rely on opinion pieces for statements of fact in wikivoice, e.g. the first sentence of the Protocol I section
- There are some additional sources, particularly recently, about this, e.g. Journal of Legal Studies recently published an issue about this; this 2024 book has a chapter on it; I recall that at least one of the Journal of Genocide Research articles that are used over at Gaza genocide, Jamshidi May 2024, covers right of resistance (probably others from JGR do, too; it's all available free via WP:TWL)
- I agree with Buidhe's comment at Palestinian right to resist that this article should be merged with that one as they're related concepts and the other article is very short
Hope this helps! Levivich (talk) 01:45, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your feedback, @Levivich! My main concern with a merger would be the undue weight armed resistance would get in the absence of material on non-violent resistance.

The recent material is really good and I look forward to reading it, especially as it relates to Israel-Hamas war.

On a different note, you linked Shiraz University's JLS (which I'm happy to use as I strongly believe in international perspectives).VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 04:24, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've raised a question about whether this article might be a fork of Palestinian right to resist at Special:Permalink/1246051628#QI 18 Sept Neutrality? Valereee (talk) 16:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not sure how orthodox are questions as titles, but I think that something like "Right to self-defense for non-state groups" may be better than "Do non-state groups have the right to self-defense?"

I don't speak english natively so I'm not sure.. — 🧀Cheesedealer ^squeak!⚟ 16:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:SECTIONSTYLE agrees with you, so I've made the update. Following the advice there to not refer to a higher-level heading I went with Applicability to non-state groups but if anybody prefers a different phrasing they should feel free to change it without asking me. Best, Wham2001 (talk) 11:07, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Palestinian right of armed resistance is often derived from Article 1(4) of Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions?

Source: Chinkin, Christine; Kaldor, Mary (2017). International law and new wars (First published ed.). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 236

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2024 Tel Aviv drone attack

Converted from a redirect by Vice regent (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 18:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Newly created/expanded; neutral wording; and hook is interesting. I would recommend adding "against the Israeli military" to specify the hook and avoid any controversies. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Alt1:...that the Palestinian right of armed resistance against the Israeli military is often derived from Article 1(4) of Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions?

How is this @Makeandtoss:? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 12:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 1 GTG. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:10, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Makeandtoss: can you use {{subst:DYKtick}}?VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 11:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

. Makeandtoss (talk) 12:54, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]