Talk:PCA Player of the Year

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This article was nominated for merging with PCA Player of the Year awards on 30 September 2021. The result of the discussion (permanent link) was to merge.

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Merger proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was Merge – eventually unanimous support, although the resulting page may need some work to reconcile everyone's ideas. Mpk662 (talk) 14:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Following the brief discussion here, I am proposing the merging of PCA Player of the Year, PCA Young Player of the Year and PCA Women's Player of the Summer. As I noted in the other discussion, the women's award seems to have been renamed 'Player of the Year' and it now seems logical to put all three awards (plus the newly created Women's Young Player of the Year) onto one page, as they all seem to have equal weight with each other (at the very least, the articles should be moved to PCA Men's Player of the Year and PCA Women's Player of the Year). As it stands, the current pages do not properly link to each other, and I didn't realise the Young Player and Women's Player pages existed at first, assuming that one page would be necessary to cover all three. Overall, I think there are a few options with how to best present these pages, but for me the best way forward is simply to put all the awards onto one page (with redirects) for ease of use. Mpk662 (talk) 15:30, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Given the length of the existing lists, and how much longer this proposed merged article would get, I think the these awards should retain their existing articles, and a parent 'PCA Awards' article should be created to link all the awards, and to include those that have been awarded less often. As that parent article gets too long, other awards can then be split off. With regards to the naming, Wikipedia policy is to follow the name, or COMMONNAME, and I'm not aware of "Men's" being commonly used to refer to these awards, but I haven't looked in depth, and that would be a different discussion anyway. Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 19:02, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I take your point, my proposal mainly stems from the fact that what was the "Women's Player of the Summer" is now just called the "Player of the Year". For example, Joe Root and Evelyn Jones are both just called "Player of the Year" in this article. So you either need to merge the two articles or differentiate by gender in the article title, otherwise you end up with two PCA Player of the Year articles! Mpk662 (talk) 20:17, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just had a quick look, and the PCA have indeed renamed them "men's" and "women's", so you are correct that we should move them to those titles. My bad for not doing any research before commenting: I'm away from home at the moment, and only online on mobile, so I was lazy about it! Harrias ^{(he/him) • talk} 04:55, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment both the men's and youth articles are FLs, should we really be merging featured articles together? Also, the men's and the youth ones actually have different names (according to the first lines of the articles). Joseph2302 (talk) 07:09, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I'm happy merging these. They aren't that long and this avoids search problems. I don't think the featured element is an issue; given the obvious similarities between the articles this avoids redundancy. Blue Square Thing (talk) 07:29, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support merging to PCA Awards; the prose in each article is minimal (7 paragraphs total) so there are no concerns about the size of the resultant article, nor would there be any undue issues that would arise. A single table would suffice for all awards, with the "other awards" (that really have no relevance here) being keyed/annotated if kept. Also, FL status is not a consideration. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 09:25, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per Blue Square Thing and Wjemather, shouldn't effect the articles FL status as long as the sources and tables are merged correctly. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 12:48, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Thanks all for your input, as there has been a few different ideas/concerns raised I've made a draft here before publishing, so any feedback/edits are welcome, otherwise I'll go ahead and merge the pages (as there does seem to be consensus for the proposal) in a few days. Mpk662 (talk) 21:13, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.