Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/PCA Player of the Year/archive1

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The list was promoted by Giants2008 23:07, 5 May 2015 [1].

PCA Player of the Year

Featured list candidates/PCA Player of the Year/archive1

Nominator(s): Harrias ^talk 14:17, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A list that I first worked on a few years ago that I have now brought up to scratch for FL. It is loosely based off a few other featured lists for awards. As always, all critique will be welcomed. I currently have a nomination open, FLC, but this has no outstanding concerns, and has garnered significant support. Harrias ^talk 14:17, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support - can't see any issues, although I don't think the template at the bottom is needed on this particular page given that it just duplicates the table -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Oh man, even cricket award names are complicated.
"the 2014 winner, Adam Lyth exemplified this claiming, "It’s a very..."" - awkward. Easiest fix is "exemplified this by claiming that "it's a very..."" - note the lowercase i, and the curly apostrophe being turned into a regular one
"but just Sir Richard Hadlee" - but only Sir Richard Hadlee
"that season, while in 2005, Flintoff won the award in the same year" - "while" implies a simultaneous relationship in time that doesn't exist here, no comma after 2005, and "the award" is ambiguous grammatically, though it's a safe assumption to be referring to the PCA award. Change to "that season, and in 2005 Flintoff won the PCA award in the same year"
Winners of the Cricket Writers' Club County Championship Player of the Year are called out in the table, but not the lead- bit odd, since it's the only such award you don't call out in the lead.
Please add the publisher (ESPN) to the espncricinfo reference.
Consider archiving your online references with a service such as archive.org or webcitation.org so that changes/removal of content from your referenced sites don't affect the article. It may seem unlikely, but it's entirely possible for a site like espncricinfo to change their article format, drop old articles, and leave you with nothing but a deadlink- it happens more often than you'd think.

--Pres N 18:02, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@PresN: All done I think. Harrias ^talk 08:37, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support, as my first as an FLC delegate instead of a normal reviewer. --Pres N 18:30, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support based on prose, and the table set-up. Overall I can't see any issues. Miyagawa (talk) 10:48, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:57, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Image captions which are complete sentences need a full stop.

Done. Harrias ^talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"award ... presented ... award is presented..." picky but this is a little repetitive for me.

I have tried to remove some of the repetition, how does it look now? Harrias ^talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"on more than one occasion" to avoid quickly repeating this phrase, perhaps "more than once" here instead?

Done. Harrias ^talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Would be nice to knock up a quick stub to cover that red link off?
Are we sure icons are allowed here? I can never remember, nor really have any energy to rediscover the myriad debates at MOS:ICON.

Yes, the icons with the country name are fine, as long as they represent the player's sporting nationality. Harrias ^talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Don't think you need Wisden Cricketers of the Year as a see also since it's in the table about 19 times.

Good point. Harrias ^talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and shouldn't it really be Wisden Cricketers of the Year?

Yes, done. Harrias ^talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would prefer to see the refs split using |30em.

Done. Harrias ^talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 13:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers! Harrias ^talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And why not add the county appearances, as you have alluded to in the Cricket Writers' Club Young Cricketer of the Year review?! The Rambling Man (talk) 13:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: The reason I've included international appearances in the CWC list is because unofficially at least, that list is considered a good indicator of future talented England players (I'm trying to find a decent ref for this for that list.) While I could include player's stats for the season in which they won, I think it would get too complicated representing FC, LA and T20 stats for both batsman and bowlers (not to mention all rounders and wicket-keepers.) To include all those stats seems over the top, but anything less seems unrepresentative. Harrias ^talk 14:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:32, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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