Talk:Oscar Holmes

A fact from Oscar Holmes appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 May 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that during World War II, Oscar Holmes became the first black US naval aviator only because the still-segregated Navy initially thought that the light-skinned Holmes was white?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by P199 (talk) 18:22, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that during World War II, Oscar Holmes became the first black US naval aviator only because the still-segregated Navy initially thought the light-skinned Holmes was white? Source: Kraus, Terry. "Oscar Holmes: He Broke Three Color Barriers, but Few Knew" (PDF). Federal Aviation Administration.Schneller, Robert J., Jr. (January–February 1998). "Oscar Holmes: A Place in Naval Aviation" (PDF). Naval Aviation News. United States Navy.{{cite magazine}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Baltasar Calvo

Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Self-nominated at 17:41, 25 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Oscar Holmes; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - what makes black past reliable?
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: - Not done
Overall: @Clarityfiend: Good article. Though, what makes Black Past a reliable source? Also, I may be confused but does the article contradict with Jesse L. Brown, I may be dumb here. Minor comment that isn't DYK mandatory, "He was survived by his wife and their three[3] or four[5] children." should probably be rid of per WP:SURVIVEDBY. QPQ also needed. Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:01, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Onegreatjoke: Have you read BlackPast.org? The Library of Congress and the New York Public Library reference librarians consider it reliable. As for SURVIVEDBY, that's a bit nitpicky, but okay. I'll rephrase it. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:33, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As for Jesse Brown, the distinction appears to be due to the fact that Holmes was already a pilot when he enlisted, hence he didn't need flight training. Clarityfiend (talk) 18:55, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Clarityfiend: Alright, I still need a QPQ though. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:30, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Onegreatjoke: QPQ done. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Onegreatjoke:, you were pinged here a month ago, have not responded, and are still actively editing. Please do the nominator the courtesy of responding. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:28, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember seeing a ping for this but here. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:31, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder...

...whether Dr. Oscar Holmes IV is one of his "several children" (or possibly grandchildren). —Mahāgaja · talk 14:44, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]