Talk:Operation Sandstone

Needs back reference

The page needs reference back to Nuclear weapon design in part for more than alloy testing (e.g., levitation). 143.232.210.150 (talk) 01:20, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Test Locations

Test lat/lon coordinates added for each test. General title level coordinates removed; they were across the atoll from the three shots in any case. SkoreKeep (talk) 07:59, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

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From http://radiochemistry.org/history/nuke_tests/sandstone/index.html

Operation Sandstone - 1948

Although a series of improvements for the implosion bomb were envisioned and under development at Los Alamos even before Trinity, the first nuclear test, the end of the war had derailed these efforts. With the Cold War rapidly developing, an urgent need was felt to bring these improvements to the U.S. weapon stockpile.

On 27 June 1947 President Harry Truman authorized a new test series for weapons development for the following year. Operation Sandstone was conducted at Enewetak Atoll in the Marshall Islands in 1948 to test the first new weapon designs since World War II. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.146.201.152 (talk) 02:24, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

From: Encyclopedia of Military Science

From Encyclopedia of Military Science, edited by G. Kurt Piehler: “In the spring of 1948, new bomb designs tested as part of Operation Sandstone, at the Bikini Atoll, dramatically changed America’s atomic capabilities. These new developments allowed for greater yield from existing fissionable material (double the explosive power of the [Atomic] bombs used durng World War II) and, therefore, the use of substantially less fissionable material (increasing the total stockpile size) . . . [A]t Sandstone, ‘composite’ cores using both uranium and plutonium were developed for the first time, . . . Improvements in efficiency allow for either an increase in yield or a decrease in size.” (p. 237) Note: The decrease in size led to multiple developments of tactical nuclear weapons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.146.201.152 (talk) 02:44, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Sandstone results led directly to Project Vista

From page 162, Volume 1, History of Acquisition in the Department of Defense: Rearming for the Cold War 1945-1960 by Elliott V. Converse III, 2012: "In the spring of 1950, Secretary of the Army Gray's special study group had concentrated on the problem of ground defense in Western Europe. Within a year, the prospect of war on the continent seemed much closer to reality. Early in 1951, the Army, together with the Navy and Air Force, contracted with Caltech for a study of land and tactical air warfare known as Project Vista. Its objective was to identify tactics, techniques, and equipment, including the use of tactical nuclear weapons that would improve military effectiveness. Although not formally stated in the contract, the project was to focus on ways to halt a Soviet attack launched across a wide front in Europe. [Endnote # 111]." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.146.201.152 (talk) 09:48, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Operation Fitzwilliam

"Spying without spies : origins of America's secret nuclear surveillance system", ISBN 0275950492, which has considerable coverage of Operation Fitzwilliam, the intelligence gathering aspect of Sandstone conducted in conjunction with the British.

Just noting its existence, as a reminder to myself for when I can get down to the library, or alternatively as a guide for future contributors seeking to expand this article should they come along in six months and I have clearly forgotten. BilledMammal (talk) 02:58, 6 September 2021 (UTC)