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Olinguitos are olingos, according to their discoverers

The language used in the ZooKeys article indicates that the authors consider the olinguito to be a species of olingo, a new kind of olingo, one of four olingo species. But this wiki article is worded as if it doesn't consider olinguitos to be olingos. --Cam (talk) 13:30, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, to an extent. The olinguito is an olingo: it's of the same genus. On the other hand, it's convenient to talk about the olingos as a shorthand for all the other members of the same genus. I tried changing "olingos" to "other olingos" in the article, but it didn't read any better. Bondegezou (talk) 13:47, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I clarified the language at several places within the article according to the input from Cam. Hopefully this meets expectations. Nevertheless, this is a somewhat methodologically-challenging issue, prompting addition of a tentative, unappealingly technological sentence that will need further tweeking. FeatherPluma (talk) 06:13, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Using common and binomial names interchangeably will always cause issues like this. Perhaps the lead paragraph could stress that the olinguito is an olingo with "is a mammal of the olingo genus Bassaricyon. Ir d'hore arachkallez (talk) 11:11, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

corrections reverted

An editor is reverting simple corretions: The pronunciation is garbled, and the animal is not Spanish. I've tagged the article rather than arguing about it. — kwami (talk) 14:45, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A citation is given for the pronunciation (unfortunately, it's a dead link, so that does need fixing). I am unclear why kwami thinks it is "garbled". The article does not claim the animal is Spanish: it explains that its name is derived using the Spanish language. Both of kwami's tags seem unhelpful to me, but I've already reverted kwami 3 times today and it would not be appropriate for me to do so again. Bondegezou (talk) 14:52, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming the IPA correctly follows the citation, the first "o" in "olinguito" is not pronounced like it is in "olingo", which is a bit odd. But the respelling is gibberish, as you'd know if you checked the key: there is no such vowel as "ih" or "oe". The respelling does not match the IPA, so one of them is wrong. The lead is also about the word "olinguito" rather than about the animal, but the word is not in quotation marks and in any case the article is about the animal, so the lead violates WP:DICT. When read quickly, it also sounds like "Bassaricyon neblina" is Spanish for "little olingo". These are simple fixes, and should not be controversial. — kwami (talk) 15:02, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It would have been helpful if you had given that reasoning sooner, as per WP:BRD. I do not see the problems you suggest with the article being "read quickly", nor the violation with WP:DICT. Hopefully others can wade in with their views.

With the pronunciation, we should follow reliable sources. I'll see if I can find an archived version of the dead link given as a starting point. Bondegezou (talk) 15:15, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Converting the pronunciation given in the source into either wiki respell or IPA is acceptable. — Lfdder (talk) 15:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Lfdder. Bondegezou (talk) 15:30, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The animal is an omnivorous frugivore

It is carnivorous according to the following link (accessed 5/22/14):

http://www.voanews.com/content/new-species-identified-in-2014/1920625.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gredow (talk • contribs) 21:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is a member of the Order Carnivora. That does not make it carnivorous. Bears are members of the same order, and some of them hardly eat meat at all.Sumanuil (talk) 06:53, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Closely related?

Articles about species should really stay away from subjective terms like "closely related". The article claims that the olinguito and the kinkajou are not closely related. They are in the same family. There is no evolutionary basis for what makes two species closely related. It would be correct to say that olinguitos are more closely related to the other olingoes than to kinkajous. Kdb1965 (talk) 00:34, 19 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bisc 350 Suggestions

Hey, Thomas. Your addition of conservation section is a good idea, and you did a good job of adding new information to the already existing sections. A suggestion would be to talk more about the reproduction of Olinguitos, such their mating system, prenatal care, etc.Vv dng (talk) 18:57, 10 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Dead link: http://savingspecies.org/2013/spectacular-new-pictures-of-mom-and-baby-olinguito-in-la-mesenia-reserve-conservation-project-colombia/ PeacefulPlanet3 (talk) 14:20, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Article assessment

Nathan Wadlington,

Based on the information found in the article, the Olinguito is truly a new species. There is not a lot of information on the article about the animal indicating thathas not been much research done on the mammal. Although there are a lot of references associated with the article, I do not know if the information on the mammal is correct. Nbwadlington (talk) 14:41, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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