Talk:Nova (RL Grime album)

Appreciation

To all the admins and users who helped bring this article over to the mainspace quickly, thank you! aNode (discuss) 10:28, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

@ANode: It wasn't an admin or admins, it was the page mover Frayae after I requested it at WP:RM/TR. Despite that, I'm still getting slandered by uninvolved editors with dubious histories for daring to ask for a histmerge to preserve yours and MicroPowerpoint's few edits to the main article before it was pageswapped with the draft and subsequently deleted. All because I apparently wanted to "steal credit" from you in the edit history when quite honestly, I didn't think my redirect would be preserved by the admin who usually does histmerges (Anthony Appleyard). Then I learned neither you nor MicroPowerpoint cared about those few edits being preserved... All in all, probably the last time I try to go to bat to save a few edits lest it come back to bite me—I had the same concern regarding you saying you'd archive a discussion involving another user's comments when I see you no evidence you did. Regardless of whether MicroPowerpoint cares about those being removed or not, it's not proper procedure to remove an entire discussion from a talk page. Ss112 02:33, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

As I said in ANode's talk page, "The redirect's history was trivial and unimportant, a histmerge was not needed." There was absolutely no reason to keep it. Micro (Talk) 02:37, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh, there have been far more trivial things retained in edit histories on this site before, so ultimately that isn't up to you or any other user, including Z0, to decide, but rather an admin. But if it helps you to have that opinion, then by all means... Ss112 02:45, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

An admin did decide, it was Anthony Appleyard. Micro (Talk) 02:54, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

...Yes, thanks for pointing that out as if I had missed it. I was speaking generally. Users don't decide what's trivial, admins do. Ss112 03:00, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Ss112: Please let me explain. That whole page you linked was the draft talk page as how I described in my talk page, wouldn't take count as archiving if you can still access it at this point of time? I thought it was totally deleted, but the text still appears to be here hmm. Regardless, as the post says, thank you for helping! But all in honestly though, there was nothing of significance that occurred in the mainspace article before it was deleted. In the main article, there was the copy and paste attempt I made before it got reverted (I also fixed wordings in the review and added an infobox album cover), while in the talk page I only added the talk page and WikiProject Album templates. Everything important was in the draft talk page which you linked above, imo. Nothing happened in the mainspace talk page which I was aware of. aNode (discuss) 02:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Album cover

@MicroPowerpoint: Hold on, we're using the pic you uploaded as the article's album cover right? aNode (discuss) 10:52, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Yea, I uploaded my cover to the cover title that was already put into the draft pretty early on. Micro (Talk) 10:55, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Personnel section

AllMusic album page out here, but no credits for the artists yet. Check it occasionally until it updates! aNode (discuss) 14:19, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Commercial performance section

In order to reach GA, we still need a commercial performance section on the article, as big as it can be. It charted in four areas, so any relevant info can be included there. If anyone is free to start up a section on it, please do! aNode (discuss) 04:37, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

A 'Commercial performance' section can easily be added, though I don't think we should add one until we find out if Nova charted in more countries and other charts and even if it went gold or some other sales milestone. The section could just be like the last sentence in the begging section, where it simply highlights how well it did commercially (kinda like this page). Also I've found that someone found out that you can get the personnel credits from the website Qobuz, as seen on the article about Joji's newest album, though I don't know where they got it from. Micro (Talk) 08:59, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

I've checked, and all the charting positions are already listed on the page. Apparently the album was only large in the US and Aus. But regarding the Qobuz link, I've checked here and by clicking each song, you can see who wrote and produced each track. Lots of badly arranged info, but if we can organise each name correctly we can finally start the section! aNode (discuss) 04:54, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Oh dang, why didn't I think of that. I thought it was in a separate section you gotta reveal by clicking a link or something. Since Ballads 1 also uses the link, I'll try to base the credits off of that, although since Ballads 1 isn't a good article, we should find a better article to use as a later template. Here's a quick copy & paste and edit of the credits in the link. I pretty much just layered it into something can can actually be made into something usable and got rid of the music publishers and copyright holders (you may need to go into source edit to see the proper layering).

Alright, if we wanna reach GA status, a few things need to be cleared. aNode (discuss) 12:55, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

• Commerical performance section Y
• No refs in lead and infobox, move all to text
• Copy-edits Y

Commercial performance (draft)

Here's a rough draft, would probably need format editing.

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In the United States, Nova debuted at number one on the Billboard Dance/Electronic Albums, with first-month sales of 6,000 units, 1,000 of which were in traditional album sales. The album also debuted at number 140 on the Billboard 200, number four on the Billboard Heatseekers Albums, number 19 on the Billboard Independent Albums, and number 50 on Australia's ARIA Charts. The album singles "Light Me Up", "Undo" and "I Wanna Know" debuted at number 18, 22 and 19 on the Billboard Dance/Electronic Digital Songs respectively. "I Wanna Know" peaked at number 13 on the Billboard Dance/Mix Show Airplay and number six on the Dance/Electronic Digital Song Sales. Both "Light Me Up" and "Undo" debuted at number 12 on the latter chart.

References

Genre section

So if we want to get rid of all the references in the lead and infobox, we have to move them into the main article, more specifically the background and release. Since the rest of the references in the lead/info are to do with what genres the album consists of, a small section can be added to the last paragraph (or a new paragraph) just saying what genre the songs in the album are. Here's a very rough draft that should be expanded upon and fixed.

Observations

• This sentence: "On his new album, Nova, these collaborations are more high-profile, with melodic rap and R&B refrains from Chief Keef, Jeremih, Tory Lanez, Ty Dolla $ign and Miguel." Melodic rap can be added in maybe.
• "These final four tracks are generally on the poppier side, especially with the Daya collaboration “I Wanna Know” and “UCLA” with 24hrs, which will undoubtedly become an anthem at the school.", poppier tracks.
• "Shrine" was identified as DnB, can be added in.

Perhaps like [1], we can individually provide a genre for each song, provided there are sources stating so for all the tracks.

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The record is mainly consisted of future bass and trap-influenced electronic dance music, with influences from bass music, dance-pop, R&B, hip-hop and drum and bass. Several songs have been prominently categorised into a single genre such as "Reims" and "Undo", which were identified as future bass and hip-hop respectively.

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