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Hurrians were Northeast-Caucasian People

Diakonov I.M., Starostin S.A. Hurro-Urartian as an Eastern Caucasian Languages. Münchener Studien zur Sprachwissenschaft, R. Kitzinger, München 1986.
Дьяконов И.М., Старостин С.А., Хуррито-урартские и восточнокавказские языки// Сб. "Древний Восток. Этнокультурные связи", стр. 164-208. Изд-во "Hаука", Главная редакция восточной литературы, Москва, 1988.
Дьяконов И.М. Языки древней Передней Азии. М. 1963.
Дьяконов И.М. Алародии (Хурриты, урарты, кутии, чеченцы и дагестанцы) // Сб. Алародии: этногенетические исследования. Махачкала, 1995.
Старостин С.А., Николаев С.Л. Севернокавказские языки и их место среди других языковых семей Передней Азии//Cб. Лингвистическая реконструкция и древнейшая история Востока. "Hаука", Главная редакция восточной литературы, Москва, 1984.--Awarenstuermer 12:19, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, but some sources in English would be quite helpful. Do you happen to have any? (not that I cannot bite through Russian text) --Pe t 'usek ^{[petrdothrubisatgmaildotcom]} 22:28, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proto-North Caucasian

Below is my slowly growing suggestion for the part on PNC. I plan to use works by Nichols and Starostin/Nikolayev.

Nikolayev and Starostin reconstruct the following phoneme inventory for the North Caucasian proto-language:

		Labials	Dentals					Velars	Uvulars	Epiglottals	Glottals
Obstruents
		Labials	(Interdentals)	Alveolars	Postalveolars	Palatals	Laterals	Velars	Uvulars	Epiglottals	Glottals
Stops	voiceless (aspirated)	p		t				k	q	ʡ	ʔ
	voiced	b		d				g	ɢ
	glottalized	p’		t’				k’	q’
Affricates	voiceless (aspirated)	(f)		ts	tʃ	tɕ	tɬ
	voiced			dz	dʒ	dʑ	dɮ
	glottalized			ts’	tʃ’	tɕ’	tɬ’
Fricatives	voiceless		(θ)	s	ʃ	ɕ	ɬ	x	χ	ʜ	h
Fricatives	voiced		(ð)	z	ʒ	ʑ	(ɮ)	(ɣ)	ʁ	ʢ	ɦ
Sonorants
Plain		w	r	l
Glides		u̯	j	ɫ
Nasals		m	n

...oh, pity I don't have time to finish it now... --Pe t 'usek ^{[petrdothrubisatgmaildotcom]} 22:28, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glottochronological graph

Arguments over the validity of glottochronology notwithstanding, the majority of researchers consider Ubykh to be more closely related to Abkhaz-Abaza and not Circassian (see e.g. Viacheslav Chirikba's Common West Caucasian (1996), pp. 7-8, and also Wim Lucassen's paper Ubykh's Position in Northwest Caucasian (1997), in A Sumru Özsoy (ed.), Proceedings of the Conference on Northwest Caucasian Linguistics, Novus Forlag, Oslo), so even on its face the glottochronological tree graph doesn't accurately reflect the current consensus, and so it should be removed at least until it can be properly sourced. Thefamouseccles (talk) 02:14, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Something should be noted

What's the relationship between this entry and Northeast Caucasian languages, are they the same? or some disambugiation is necessary?-Aronlee90 (talk) 11:18, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2.3 Some comparisons

There is table of Caucasian numerals in the sections "2.3. Some Comparisons" At the bottom it is noted that (S)=Schulze. Probably, it was not Schulze's reconstruction, but Starostins' one?

Rename to Caucasian Languages

This article should be renamed as Caucasian languages since, the title North Caucasian is misleading, due to the fact that they had no connections with the Kartvelian languages, who were known as South Caucasian languages. Anonymy365248 (talk) 15:06, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The lead explains this. Drmies (talk) 01:34, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- What do you mean by that? Anonymy365248 (talk) 04:30, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - That this naming matter is discussed in the lead. Drmies (talk) 12:42, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]