Talk:No. No. No. (Margaret Thatcher)

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Requested move 16 May 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. The majority of editors commenting do not think that the punctuation is sufficient to distinguish from other topics with very similar names. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 06:32, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. No. No. → No. No. No. (Margaret Thatcher quote) – This quote is certainly notable, but it differs from the disambiguation page No, No, No only by punctuation. JIP | Talk 11:46, 16 May 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. (t · c) buidhe 02:08, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:DIFFPUNCT. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 12:13, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Like many of the other entries on the dab page, the medium of this message was primarily auditory, not written, so neither commas nor full stops were being used at the time. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:32, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@BarrelProof: see Hansard ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 01:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I saw it. I assume she didn't write it and that the original was delivered orally. Personally, I seldom use punctuation marks when I speak (or sing), and I suspect that applies to her as well. Even if I wrote something, in most cases I wouldn't expect people to remember which punctuation marks I was using. — BarrelProof (talk) 01:53, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Neveselbert: The sources cited in the article are not consistent about the punctuation. The BBC uses commas. The Guardian uses exclamation points. The Margaret Thatcher Foundation doesn't use punctuation at all. Rublov (talk) 12:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose none of the other uses appear to use full stops so even if this one doesn't always it appears to be unique for this term. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:47, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Commas versus periods is not distinguishing punctuation. BD2412 T 02:44, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~—Relisting. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 13:40, 23 May 2021 (UTC)~~[reply]

Looks like I didn't put this in the right place. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 07:18, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support: WP:DIFFPUNCT says [t]he general approach is that whatever readers might type in the search box, they are guided as swiftly as possible to the topic they might reasonably be expected to be looking for. In this case, I do not think it is reasonable to assume that someone who enters "No. No. No." into the search box is definitely looking for the Margaret Thatcher quote and not for any of the topics at No, No, No. Rublov (talk) 13:56, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Why? What else would you be looking for if you intentionally include the full stops? Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They might be looking for any of the other topics at No, No, No. After all, mixing up commas and full stops is an easy mistake to make. Rublov (talk) 12:11, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support – I don't think full stops are sufficient as a form of disambiguation, per the above. RGloucester — ☎ 00:44, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Reference to IMF

"..the final part of her statement a reference to the 1976 sterling crisis under a Labour government"

Not only a reference to that. The Wilson government of the 1960s spent many months under IMF 'discipline'. This has largely been successfully expunged from the collective memory through its being ignored by present-day historians, but it is referred to in Richard Crossman's Diaries of a Cabinet Minister and in some academic papers, for example here. Harfarhs (talk) 16:52, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]