Talk:Nissan Leaf

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1st generation - Plug-in charging Chademo (inbox)

User:172.58.75.26 According to citation, the first generation Nissan Leaf limits charging at a max. of 44 kW 480 V DC on CHAdeMO inlet. Furthermore, the reference you cited does not mention at what rate a first generation Nissan Leaf can recharge. Do you have any further to add? Now wiki (talk) 05:38, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization of LEAF

Nissan officially calls this car the Nissan LEAF(R). As it is a registered trademark, the article should use the capitalized version of the name for the car, as that is how the trademark owner intends the name to be represented. ^[1]

Am0210 (talk) 21:37, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

^ https://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/leaf-2019/?dcp=psn.58700004658395136&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi9yL-ouz5AIVAT0MCh3rogxPEAAYASAAEgI8pPD_BwE

MOS:TM covers this. Stepho talk 22:05, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ICE comparison

 According to a 2015 report by Warranty Direct, of 35,000 Leafs sold in Europe, three had had a battery failure, compared to a failure rate 25 times higher for internal combustion engined cars

So three Leafs had battery failure, were these the 'only' failures they had, or are they only counting battery failures specifically? And ICE cars have 'a failure rate 25 times higher', is that only counting failures of the fuel system, as equivalent to the battery system of a BEV? Or are they counting ALL failures of any sort for ICE cars, and only battery failures for the EVs? That is not a fair comparison, and I find it hard to believe that no Leaf had a failure of any component besides the battery pack. No wonky motors? No computer problems? No wiring issues? What about failures of the non-driveline parts of the cars, which are identical between both models? In any case, 25 times higher means 75 failures (of unspecified nature) among every 35,000 ICE cars sold, which is pretty insignificant. And the ICE cars aren't sold with an engine guaranteed to fail within ten years, unlike the Leaf, which will require a new battery pack before it is ten years old. If you just extend the parameters out a bit, the failure rate of the Leaf becomes 100%. The comparison is basically meaningless propaganda without more details and context given. BTW the NISMO Leaf RC is not actually a Leaf, it uses a totally custom chassis and a totally different body, and battery pack, which is also relocated. The only shared component is the motor. And they have a new version since then that they have given two motors and made 4WD. Because apparently 20 minutes was just too much endurance. https://www.motortrend.com/news/nissan-leaf-nismo-rc-first-look/ https://www.motortrend.com/features/nissan-leaf-nismo-rc-first-drive/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/nissan-leaf-nismo-rc-race-car/

64.223.165.132 (talk) 16:38, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vehicle size class

It's not a compact car in the US - it is a midsize car. You can see that designation on fueleconomy.gov 2604:2D80:E7A6:7400:3810:37DC:60C3:96DD (talk) 05:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Strange, I would have thought it would be the same as a Corolla hatchback. Except the US didn't get the Corolla hatchback and the sedan is classed as a compact. I guess the Leaf moves into the next size up due to its generous 90 cu.ft passenger space and 23 cu.ft luggage space. Anyway, I don't have a big problem with calling it a mid-size car. Stepho talk 08:14, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The battery lease option citation is a dead link.

No archive link is provided. 172.56.12.104 (talk) 12:34, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Go to archive.org and copy the link into there. When you have found a good archived copy, copy the URL of the archived version into the reference as the |archive-url= and |archive-date= parameters. Look at some of the other references for examples. Stepho talk 13:31, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sales figures

The sales figures are outdated, with the latest year being 2017. But I get why -- a huge number of countries and totals by country and year make updating it a daunting task. Might I suggest narrowing it down to five or so countries, and removing the totals, so the table is easier to maintain? If there are sources for the grand totals by year, it's fine to include them. But one could argue that adding one's own totals is WP:SYNTH, since you're calculating them on your own and not really specifying why that number is notable. --Vossanova ^o< 23:54, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Environmental footprint

Wouldn't tonnes be a better order of magnitude than kg for the CO2 savings? Jonnyboy5 (talk) 21:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

precisely because the numbers are large. And large-scale carbon savings are conventionally expressed in tonnes. Jonnyboy5 (talk) 13:19, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

180 million kg = 180,000 tons. When the numbers are so large it hardly seems worth the change. And which ton ?

Careful driving

When my wife and I got ours this year, I said, "Let's be very careful to stay on the road—we don't want to turn over a new LEAF." – AndyFielding (talk) 12:55, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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