Talk:New York Savings Bank Building

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 23:49, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

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The New York Savings Bank Building

• ... that the New York Savings Bank Building, once described as standing out "with especial prominence in its neighborhood", later became a pharmacy? Source: Gray, Christopher (September 13, 1987). "Streetscapes: The New York Savings Bank; Landmark Hearing for 14th St. Building". The New York Times; Chen, Stefanos (April 19, 2019). "Historic Bank Buildings Get a Second Act". The New York Times.
  • ALT1: ... that the New York Savings Bank Building later became "The Grand Palais of Rugs" and the "Temple of Food"? Source: Kamen, Robin (March 20, 1995). "Dealer trying to pull rug out from big foes". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 11, no. 12. p. 3; Rozhon, Tracie (December 1, 2004). "A Big Crowd in the Specialty Niche". The New York Times.
  • ALT2: ... that the New York Savings Bank Building later became "The Grand Palais of Rugs" and the "Temple of Food" before becoming a pharmacy? Source: Kamen, Robin (March 20, 1995). "Dealer trying to pull rug out from big foes". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 11, no. 12. p. 3; Rozhon, Tracie (December 1, 2004). "A Big Crowd in the Specialty Niche". The New York Times; Chen, Stefanos (April 19, 2019). "Historic Bank Buildings Get a Second Act". The New York Times.
  • ALT3: ... that a carpet store almost did not open in the New York Savings Bank Building because there was to be a subway entrance outside the building's entrance? Source: Howe, Marvine (July 10, 1994). "Neighborhood Report: the Villages; Would 15th Street Be Lost for Lack of a Subway Entrance?". The New York Times.
  • ALT4: ... that the New York Savings Bank Building, empty for seven years, was later acquired by a carpet-store owner who saw the building while driving through the area? Source: Kamen, Robin (March 20, 1995). "Dealer trying to pull rug out from big foes". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 11, no. 12. p. 3.
  • ALT5: ... that since the 1990s, the New York Savings Bank Building has variously served as a carpet emporium, a market, and a pharmacy? Source: various, including Chen, Stefanos (April 19, 2019). "Historic Bank Buildings Get a Second Act". The New York Times.
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5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 13:46, 1 May 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/New York Savings Bank Building; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: QPQ still needs doing. Recommend ALT5 as the hook. Grnrchst (talk) 08:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

• @Grnrchst: Thanks for the review. I have now done a QPQ. For what it's worth, these hooks are ordered by preference, which means that ALT5 is actually the hook that I thought was least interesting. Ultimately, though, the promoter can choose whichever hook they think is most interesting. Epicgenius (talk) 12:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

• Approved! --Grnrchst (talk) 13:03, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 01:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

To begin review.--ZKang123 (talk) 01:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Quickfail checks:

• Photos are free-use
• Earwig shows some reuse of common phrasings. Might watch out for those that can be easily rewritten: "The bank was founded in 1854", "moved out of the building"

Prose comments:

• "contains porticos and a dome" – "features porticos and a dome"
• "and there is a dome placed asymmetrically" – "a dome is placed asymmetrically"
• "originally contained the name" – "was originally inscribed with the name"
• "There are stone pedestals with vitrines in front of these blind panels" – "In front of these blind panels are stone pedestals with vitrines."
• "The two outer bays, on either side of the entrance, contain blind panels rather than windows at the first story." – "The first story of the two outer bays, situated on either side of the entrance, features blind panels instead of windows."
• "The 14th Street elevation is asymmetrical because of its internal layout; it is divided vertically into three sections." – "Because of its internal layout, the 14th Street elevation is asymmetrical and divided vertically into three sections."
• "each of which contains a" – "each of which has a"
• "There are guttae beneath each window sill" – "Beneath each window sill are guttae"
• "The tops of the pilasters contain egg-and-dart moldings and anthemia, and the outermost two pilasters contain paneling." – "Egg-and-dart moldings and anthemia embellish the upper sections of the pilasters, while paneling adorns the outermost two pilasters." Or rewrite such to remove recurrences of "contain"
• "This sign is triangular and contains a pair of clock faces." – "This sign is triangular with a pair of clock faces."
• "and there is a vitrine below each clock face." – "and below each clock face is a vitrine."
• "There is a copper domed roof above the gabled roof." – "Above the gabled roof is a copper dome"
• "Although the roof is three stories high, different parts of the interior contain between one and three stories, as there are some triple-height spaces." – "Although the roof is three stories high, the interior features varying levels, ranging from one to three stories, with several areas incorporating triple-height spaces."
• "was the banking room, which was accessed" – "was the banking room accessed"
• "There was an "L"-shaped beige-marble tellers' counter, which was placed about 15 ft (4.6 m) away from the west and south walls." – "An "L"-shaped beige-marble tellers' counter was placed about 15 ft (4.6 m) away from the west and south walls."
• "Each of the ceiling's coffers contains an embossed rosette at its center" – features an embossed
• "That October, the bank filed plans for yet another revision to the plans, this time proposing to" – "filed versions to the plans, proposing to"
• Wikilink World War II
• "$1,504 million" – for a moment I thought it should be 1.504... then I realized it would be much less...
• "The facade was cleaned in 1945" – wouldn't polished be a better term?
• "89 Eighth Avenue, next to the bank building's annex, in November 1952." – remove the commas
• "was considering" – considered
• "There was also a hole in the roof, which prompted concerns" – "A hole in the roof prompted concerns"
• "the banking hall to designs by Scarano, Englert & Norton." – you mean "the banking hall designed by Scarano, Englert & Norton."
• "that dated from 1952" – "dating from 1952"
• "operated for three years, closing suddenly in April 2009." – I don't think it's necessary to state it has been opened for three years. "but closed suddenly in April 2009."
• Are there reasons for the sudden closure? (Source mentions about restructuring)

Article is rather brief compared to many of your buildings' articles, but still informative and comprehensive. Putting review on hold.--ZKang123 (talk) 06:28, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the review @ZKang123. I have now addressed almost all of these (except for the 1,504 million figure, which should really be 1.504 billion due to inflation). It's a relatively small bank, so I really wasn't able to find as much info on this building compared to some of the other structures I've written about. Epicgenius (talk) 15:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

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