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Section size for Nayib Bukele (45 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	8,126	8,126
Early life	7,913	7,913
Early political career	30	41,380
Mayor of Nuevo Cuscatlán	5,040	5,040
Mayor of San Salvador	12,611	12,611
Troll Center case	4,279	4,279
Expulsion from the FMLN	8,092	8,092
2019 presidential election	11,328	11,328
Presidency	18	180,649
Inaugurations	4,323	4,323
Crime	4,417	53,889
Territorial Control Plan	14,177	14,177
Alleged gang negotiations	7,478	7,478
Gang crackdown	27,817	27,817
Political crises	9,350	9,350
COVID-19 pandemic	13,068	13,068
Economy	17	20,201
Adoption of bitcoin	14,481	14,481
Economic Plan	5,703	5,703
Foreign policy	14,514	26,228
Relations with the United States	7,470	7,470
Relations with China	4,244	4,244
Alleged governmental corruption	9,294	9,294
Anti-corruption campaigns	10,499	10,499
Municipal and legislative reductions	9,360	9,360
2024 re-election campaign	24,419	24,419
Personal life	21	10,570
Family	2,117	2,117
Wealth	2,463	2,463
Religion	3,898	3,898
Honors	2,071	2,071
Political views	20,905	35,831
Social issues	7,208	7,208
Central American unity	5,975	5,975
Emigration	1,743	1,743
Public image	20	28,176
Relationship with the press	15,440	15,440
Hosting of international events	5,697	5,697
Job approval and popularity	7,019	7,019
Electoral history	3,563	3,563
See also	69	69
Notes	50	50
References	31	31
Further reading	3,772	3,772
External links	2,443	2,443
Total	322,573	322,573

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Presidency number

@Richie1509: Do you have a source which says he is the 60th president? Source 61^[1] published on 7 June 2019 states that there had been 81 presidents, thus, Bukele is the 81st. You can't say "There is no source" when there is a source saying so in the body and then change it without a source. The only place i can find that says he's the 60th is Spanish Wikipedia's article, and Wikipedia is not a source (it's unsourced there anyway). Thanks. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 22:39, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Spanish Wikipedia, he is the 60th president. Here's the link: Nayib Bukele Richie1509 (talk) 00:28, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, OK Richie1509 (talk) 00:28, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But what if some of those presidents are interim or acting, it could be possible. Richie1509 (talk) 00:29, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find another source that gave a number other than 81. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 01:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please update the presidential list on the page President of El Salvador then as it only gave 43 rather than 81. Richie1509 (talk) 04:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Las Singularidades de los Presidentes de El Salvador" [The Singularities of the Presidents of El Salvador]. YouTube (in Spanish). Channel 12. 7 June 2019. Retrieved 25 July 2024.

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Nayib Bukele/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: PizzaKing13 (talk · contribs) 23:52, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: DeadlyRampage26 (talk · contribs) 00:35, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'll do this review. It is a fairly long article so it will probably take a few weeks to review.DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 00:35, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Prose is understandable to a broad audience. Appropriate number of wikilinks which do a good part to supplement this. Upon running prose through a few different spelling and grammar checker the prose seems to be fine, and I have fixed a few of the minor errors myself.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lead section is decent, was concerned at first about the length, but upon reading MOS guidelines and considering the length of the entire prose, it seems appropriate. Lead section also provides a good overview of his political positions and philosophy, which is what most are here for. Layout complies with guidelines. Complies with the other MOS guidelines
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Layout of references does indeed comply with the guidelines.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Each paragraph does have relevant citations and they are in the correct places respective to the article. Source spot check results I spot checked source 63, this source claims that the inauguration took place at the national palace, whilst the article states it happened at a plaza. Spot checks also conducted on sources 223 and 39 and about 4 others, which all came back good.
	2c. it contains no original research.	Source 10 may be a primary source (?) as its directly from a government page. Cant see any other primaries.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	No plagiarism as evident by 2 different detectors.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	I would say that the information is in scope.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Wondering if maybe there should be a 'Presidency of Nayib Bukele' page in which some of the more government-wide information could be moved to and simply summarised here? That may not be needed ill need to consult more with guidelines.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	The article does represent viewpoints fairly.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	There is no real edit war.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Yes. From what I can see there is no challenges to image copyrights etc.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Indeed
	7. Overall assessment.	Please remove source 10 and other primary sources such as those from the Supreme Electoral Court towards the end of the reflist. Once this is done I have no reservations about passing the article. @DeadlyRampage26: I removed 10 and 352, but why should I remove the TSE's sources. No other source exists that publish the election results I used them for. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 07:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply] I replaced 397, but finding replacements for 14 and 396 will be virtually impossible; I'll be very lucky to find news coverage of the 2015 San Salvador municipal election with the full results, while I know that finding the results for the 2012 Nuevo Cuscatlán municipal election from a non-TSE source is not possible. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 07:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC) : @PizzaKing13: Alright seeing as there is no alternative, I will pass the article, congratulations![reply] Thanks for the review! PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 08:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Questions

Ok, so first question is why are there so damn many spanish translations in the body? where is that required and does it need to really be after every single phrase he said? DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 00:53, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE, translations are only included when the text is not already in English, ie I translated it myself from an article in Spanish PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 03:27, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ok thanks man DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 09:49, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Progressive Recommendations List

There is a lot of 'which' as the operative. Examples would include 'which launched', 'which made' etc that grammar checkers are recommending change to 'that'.

I've changed every instance to "that" or reworded sentences to eliminate which. The only instance left is in the first sentence of the lead "[...] and the left-wing Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front (FMLN), of which Bukele had previously been a member". PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 16:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks man DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 22:44, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As per Words to Watch, I would recommend changing words like 'said' to something different. MOS:SAID, MOS:OP-ED DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 07:32, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll get to this shortly. I didn't realize "said" was used 46 times. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 16:51, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I changed all but 6 instances of "said", where those 6 instances are about him physically saying something so to me it makes sense in context. MOS:SAID doesn't say we need to completely avoid "said", so I think just these 6 are fine. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 18:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
yep no need to completely eliminate all of them, it was just a bit overused. Thanks DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 20:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DeadlyRampage26: The National Palace is in the Gerardo Barrios Plaza, but I still changed it to National Palace. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 08:42, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks man. Just wanted to apologise for not being as active in this review as you may have wanted. Ill try speed things up a bit. Ill do a bit more now. DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 10:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Language course

Why does every other quote have a bracketed Spanish version added? Other articles don't do this. Perhaps OK if the translation might be controversial, but surely very little is gained by explaining:

"impossible" ("imposible") 2A02:AA1:1046:3775:25B4:5BAC:73F5:E081 (talk) 15:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 17:31, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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Nayib Bukele in 2019

... that during the presidency of Nayib Bukele (pictured), El Salvador became the first country to adopt bitcoin as legal tender?

Source: Pérez, Santiago; Ostroff, Caitlin (7 September 2021). "El Salvador Becomes First Country to Adopt Bitcoin as National Currency". The Wall Street Journal. San Salvador, El Salvador.

ALT1: ... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) has referred to himself as the "coolest dictator in the world" on Twitter? Source: Youkee, Mat (26 September 2021). "Nayib Bukele Calls Himself the 'World's Coolest Dictator' – But Is He Joking?". The Guardian. San Salvador, El Salvador. ISSN 0029-7712.
ALT2: ... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) is of Palestinian descent? Source: Ahren, Raphael (7 February 2019). "His Dad was an Imam, His Wife has Jewish Roots: Meet El Salvador's New Leader". The Times of Israel.
ALT3: ... that Salvadoran president Nayib Bukele (pictured) supports reunifying Central America? Source: "Nayib Bukele: "Centroamérica Debería Ser Un Solo País"" [Nayib Bukele: "Central America Should Be One Single Country"]. Contra Punto (in Spanish). 4 January 2024.
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Francis L. Sampson

Improved to Good Article status by PizzaKing13 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 09:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

That's quite the GA – good job. Review to come. charlotte ^👸♥ 05:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominated the day it was GAed, certainly long enough, copyvio checks return fine. All hooks are cited and interesting (Times of Israel is no consensus, but probably fine for this info), although I think ALT1 is the most interesting. Image has VRT and QPQ done. charlotte ^👸♥ 20:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Las Singularidades de los Presidentes de El Salvador" [The Singularities of the Presidents of El Salvador]. YouTube (in Spanish). Channel 12. 7 June 2019. Retrieved 25 July 2024.

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