Talk:Naval Advance Base Saipan

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Cleanup

User:User:Telecineguy I cleaned up the first paragraph but you really need to do this work yourself, there are numerous typos and link errors that need to be resolved. As with Naval Advance Base Espiritu Santo you seem to have taken the view that all military installations on Saipan were part of one large naval base called Naval Advance Base Saipan, what is the sourcing for this? Mztourist (talk) 03:24, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback. The references speak to the fact that the Navy Seabees built, repaired and lengthened All the airfields. The Seabees also continued to maintain the runways and tank farms. For early bases built in 1940 and 1942, this was not the case as private contractors and the US Army built these airfields in 1940 and 1941. The airfields have their own page and the details of their operations with the United States Army Air Forces, the Advance Base page does not cover this as this is Army Air Forces operations. I think this is clear on the page, but I will try to look at the wording again. Thank you. Telecine Guy (talk) 03:55, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a formal warning, do not edit my comments as you did here: [1] if you do this again I will have you blocked.Mztourist (talk) 04:27, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Many of the photos are of the air bases, but I don't see any reliable source saying that the airfields were part of the "naval advance base". What is the relevance of Typhoon Yuto and Pacific Barrier Radar? Mztourist (talk) 04:29, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, I did not remove this text intentionally.. Telecine Guy (talk) 05:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Seabees returned to Saipan. Telecine Guy (talk) 05:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that Seebees returned to Saipan is irrelevant, this page is about a base not the Seebees. The base page ends with its closure, but you don't even provide detail on when the base was closed. Mztourist (talk) 05:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Seabees did not just build the base, the Seabees are the base. The 2,500 Seabees lived at Saipan, they operated the base. They built and filled the tank farms. They built and maintained water and sewage systems. They operated the railroad (and roads) that took supplies and men to the airfields. After reading the US Navy reports the only thing on Saipan they did not build and maintain on the Island was the US Army planes that landed on the runways. They built, but did not run the US Army hospitals at the base. One cannot separate the Base from the Seabees.

Good point about the closure. Unlike Espiritu Santo were everything was dumped into the sea and in a few months the base was abandoned, Saipan was closed little by little over a long time span. I agree this should be noted.

I thank you for the feedback, much appreciated, and will work on the requests.

Telecine Guy (talk) 19:52, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, the Seebees are not the base, they built and maintained the base. If you want to write about Seebees do so on the Seebees page or separate pages for the Mobile Construction Battalion(s) that were involved, but don't confuse the two here. You still haven't provided the RS that all military installations on Saipan were part of one large naval base called Naval Advance Base Saipan. You also need to detail the base closure. Mztourist (talk) 03:58, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted text no dessusion.Telecine Guy (talk) 21:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lagcey

The Saipan's 133 acres American Memorial Park was built to honor the American Troops and Marianas people who gave their lives in the Marianas Campaign. The Memorial Park has a Court of Honor and Flag Circle. The Flag Circle has an American flag with the flags of the U.S. Marine Corps, US Army, US Navy, and US Air Force. Surrounding the flags is a memorial containing over 5000 names of those who made the final sacrifice for freedom. The Memorial Park is on the western side of Saipan. At the park visitors do activities the Troop did, including water sports, tennis, softball, jogging and bicycling. Near the Memorial Park is Micro Beach, with windsurfers, snorkelers, and picnic tables.^[1]^[2]

Typhoon Yuto

US troops returned to Saipan in October of 2018, but this time to help after Typhoon Yutu caused widespread destruction on the Island. The US military clean up 200,000 tons of debris and built temporary roofs have many damaged home. Water and relief supplies were distributed. Seabees from Navy Mobile Construction Battalion 1, based in Guam fixed roofs and home. In 1968 Typhoon Jean also did damage to Saipan and the base.^[3]^[4]

Pacific Barrier Radar III

The Navy departed much of the base at the end of the war. The United States Air Force continued to use the main runways. The United States Air Force built a Pacific Barrier Radar III station in the 1980s as part of the cold war buildup. Pacific Barrier Radar III or PACBAR III could detect and track Soviet Union satellites and missile launches. At the end of the cold war the site was abandoned. ^[5]

I deleted it because none of it is related to the Naval Advance Base of WWII (and you still haven't provided a reference that it was actually called that). They are just things that happened on Saipan after the war and so don't belong on the page. Mztourist (talk) 09:49, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ U.S. Geological Survey Geographic Names Information System: American Marianas Memorial Park
^ Saipan, Mailing Address: P. O. Box 5198; Us, MP 96950 Phone:234-7207 x2020 Contact. "American Memorial Park (U.S. National Park Service)". www.nps.gov.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
^ Prine, Carl (October 30, 2018). "Military forces from Hawaii to Guam pitch in to save Saipan, Tinian in the wake of super typhoon". Navy Times.
^ "Army Reserve answers call for Typhoon Yutu disaster support relief". U.S. Army Reserve.
^ Pacific Barrier Radar III

[1] U.S. Geological Survey Geographic Names Information System: American Marianas Memorial Park

[2] Saipan, Mailing Address: P. O. Box 5198; Us, MP 96950 Phone:234-7207 x2020 Contact. "American Memorial Park (U.S. National Park Service)". www.nps.gov.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)

[3] Prine, Carl (October 30, 2018). "Military forces from Hawaii to Guam pitch in to save Saipan, Tinian in the wake of super typhoon". Navy Times.

[4] "Army Reserve answers call for Typhoon Yutu disaster support relief". U.S. Army Reserve.

[5] Pacific Barrier Radar III

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