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A fact from Murders of Annette Cooper and Todd Schultz appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 March 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Dale Johnston was declared innocent of the murder and dismemberment of his stepdaughter and her fiancé in 1982, 30 years after being sentenced to death for it?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Murders of Annette Cooper and Todd Schultz.

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The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 12:58, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Dale Johnston was sentenced to death for murdering and dismembering his stepdaughter and her fiance in 1982, and 30 years after the murders declared innocent? Source: https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2015/1028/Man-freed-from-death-row-can-sue-Ohio-for-wrongful-imprisonment-judge-says "Mr. Johnston was released from prison in 1990, but still sought a declaration of innocence order to win compensation for wrongful conviction. Twenty-two years [after his release, 30 years after the murders], Johnston was finally granted a declaration of innocence."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kae Miller

Created by Valereee (talk). Self-nominated at 00:25, 12 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Murders of Annette Cooper and Todd Schultz; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Comment: I know it's not usual to include the name of a person without an article, but this person has been fighting to get his name cleared for 40 years and I feel like it might be worth an exception. Valereee (talk) 00:30, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I'm happy with the name: I think there's a good reason to include it, since he's a key figure in the article and it adds significantly to the interest of the hook.

I worry that the phrasing is a little clunky: how about:

ALT0a ... that Dale Johnston was declared innocent of murdering and dismembering his stepdaughter and her fiancé in 1982, 30 years after being sentenced to death for it? UndercoverClassicist (talk) 20:49, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would avoid gerunds, as you could substitute the it in the final clause with the boldfaced phrase and get a very misleading interpretation (i.e.: was declared innocent of murdering and dismembering his stepdaughter and her fiancé in 1982, 30 years after being sentenced to death for murdering and dismembering his stepdaughter and her fiancé in 1982).

I suggest:

ALT0b ... that Dale Johnston was declared innocent of the murder and dismemberment of his stepdaughter and her fiancé in 1982, 30 years after being sentenced to death for it?

DigitalIceAge (talk) 03:01, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I realise I'm coming back very late to this, but that's a great fix. Template updated above. UndercoverClassicist (talk) 10:08, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]