Talk:Muhammad Yunus
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Dr. Morduch's comment on this article
[edit]Dr. Morduch has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:
Lots of detail about Yunus, but it's hard to see through it all to get at what matters. The articles on microcredit and microfinance presumably discuss the key ideas. So instead what's here is much more personal and gives too much space to sensationalistic allegations of one kind or another, most of which have been investigated and amount to little (but I get that it's fair to mention them).
What feels strange is that there are real, substantive questions about the success of microcredit/microfinance, especially around over-indebting millions of poor families and about Yunus's foundational claim that most poor people want to be entrepreneurs but just lack capital. That's not clear. Many it seem would rather have steady jobs if given the chance. Yet this level of question gets no space here. The brief section on "Criticism of ideas" offers nothing really. Someone in the Guardian wrote that microfinance was a "Neoliberal fairytale." But what does that mean? And why? And what's wrong with using loans for "consumption smoothing" rather than business (if that's what borrowers deem is best)? The idea that Yunus's ideas were first tried by Khushi Kabir at BRAC could be right at some basic level. (I'd never heard that before and I've worked on microfinance for decades, including in Bangladesh.) Many were trying similar things (so why point out just her? - more common is to point to earlier efforts in Brazil by Accion -- and others). But this all misses the big point. There were tons of small efforts to try to help people borrow. Yunus was the only one who managed to start building a real, functional bank that did it, one that grew and eventually came to serve 8 million borrowers in Bangladesh. All of that is lost here.
The general problem is a difficulty seeing beyond the bits and pieces to put emphasis on the key parts and identify holes in the narrative.
We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.
Dr. Morduch has published scholarly research which seems to be relevant to this Wikipedia article:
- Reference : Michal Bauer & Julie Chytilova & Jonathan Morduch, 2008. "Behavioral Foundations of Microcredit: Experimental and Survey Evidence From Rural India," Working Papers IES 2008/28, Charles University Prague, Faculty of Social Sciences, Institute of Economic Studies, revised Nov 2008.
ExpertIdeasBot (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
See also section
[edit]The See also section is currently composed of articles related to notable people of Bangledeshi backgrounds. I don't believe this is the primary category or context in which people reading this article are interested. I would suggest it be replaced with notable figures in development economics and especially development finance institutions. Sondra.kinsey (talk) 22:28, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
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Controversies are disproportionate and overwhelmingly unsourced
[edit]Many of the "controversies" discussed in this article were proven to be false allegations and/or nonsense. More significantly, they are overwhelmingly sourced from non-existent domains. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 05:20, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
The "Criticism of Ideas" section seems AI-generated.
[edit]The format looks similar to what's generated by ChatGPT, so I ran it through an AI checker and it came out as 100% AI-generated. Terrariola 23:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Terrariola: Thanks for catching that. Most of the text was recently added by Khalidhasan2023a. Are you going to warn them and clean it up as described at Wikipedia:Large language models? If not, you could tag it with {{AI-generated}}. Anyone interested in combating the general problem is invited to join Wikipedia:WikiProject AI Cleanup. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:15, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- We should revert that edit. Mehedi Abedin 05:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- I’ve removed the section, but it definitely needs to be rewritten. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 13:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- For anyone willing to write it, some sources that might make a starting point are:
- Hashmi, Taj ul-Islam (2000). Women and Islam in Bangladesh: beyond subjection and tyranny. St. Martin's Press. ISBN 978-0-312-22219-2.
- Ahmad, Qazi Kholiquzzaman (2007). Socio-economic and indebtedness-related impact of micro-credit in Bangladesh. Dhaka: University Press. ISBN 978-984-05-1778-7.
- Karim, Lamia (2011). Microfinance and its discontents : women in debt in Bangladesh. University of Minnesota Press. ISBN 978-0-8166-7094-9.
- Chapra, M. Umer (2014). Morality and justice in Islamic economics and finance. Edward Elgar. ISBN 978-1-78347-571-1.
- Bateman, Milford; Maclean, Kate, eds. (2017). Seduced and Betrayed: Exposing the Contemporary Microfinance Phenomenon. University of New Mexico Press. ISBN 978-0-8263-5796-0.
- --Worldbruce (talk) 15:04, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- For anyone willing to write it, some sources that might make a starting point are:
- I’ve removed the section, but it definitely needs to be rewritten. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 13:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- We should revert that edit. Mehedi Abedin 05:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Improvement
[edit]We should attempt to Improve this article. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk) 09:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 8 August 2024
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A lot of disrupting edits going on due to current political event happening within the subject. Can someone semi protect the page? Thank you. James Conan Niag (talk) 18:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- @James Conan Niag: post your request at WP:RFPP RudolfRed (talk) 18:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Lifetime
[edit]Why dr. Muhammad yunus was awarded 103.204.208.185 (talk) 03:59, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Yogurt controversy
[edit]It seems like nothing ever happened with the yogurt controversy from 2011. I couldn't find any sources about it except for the ones we already cite about Yunus going to a hearing and then being exempted from further hearings. Unless someone knows of any updates, I'm going to assume that the case fizzled out and is now WP:UNDUE. Nosferattus (talk) 16:05, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Unable to edit this article
[edit]I was going to fix an item of punctuation in this article but was unable to do so because it appears to be locked from editing. Please fix this ridiculous situation! 98.123.38.211 (talk) 06:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- This article is protected as a precaution. You can submit an edit request specifying the exact change you think we should make. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 10:11, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
Title of the position :
[edit]It should be Chief "Adviser" instead of Chief "Minister." 68.197.64.240 (talk) 13:44, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
01879379676 103.152.213.63 (talk) 17:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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- What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):
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2001:7D0:84E3:CF00:1133:1303:F0CA:6D2F (talk) 09:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 13:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
"External links" section
[edit]Moved from "External links" section:
- Muhammad Yunus biography at Grameen Bank
- Exclusive Interview with Educational Technology Magazine
- যে কারণে ইউনূসের বিরুদ্ধে হাসিনা | জাতীয় | কালের কণ্ঠ. Kaler Kantho (in Bengali). 20 September 2013. Retrieved 8 July 2015.
SerChevalerie (talk) 12:43, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Pani nai
[edit]Tongi morkon Pani nai 103.181.181.131 (talk) 14:58, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Infobox Image
[edit]Recently, there is a many change in article's Infobox. Current picture made him looking bad. We need a quality picture where he actually pose for photo. Gaplow43286 (talk) 03:16, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- I just changed Infobox image. Gaplow43286 (talk) 06:28, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ahammed Saad Why you change the image. Your Image quality is bad. I don’t revert it beacuse i respect you and don't wants to encouraged in edit war. Gaplow43286 (talk) 04:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
স্যার আমাদের মুন্সিগঞ্জের ভিতরে অনেক অস্র দাড়িলোক ও আদিত্য নিয়ে মারামারি হয়ে থাকেআমি আপনাদের থেকে সাহায্য চাই
[edit]need halp pleass sir 2405:3800:8F7:92D2:0:0:0:1 (talk) 16:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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