Talk:Midwest emo

Indie emo

States that "indie emo" is often called "midwest emo" because of the geographical origin of a majority of the bands; in "several major regions of 'indie emo' emerged. The most significant appeared in the Midwest in the mid-90s. Many of the bands were influenced by the same sources, but with an even more tempered sound. This brand of emo was often called "Midwest emo" due to the geographical location of the bands"; I attempted to add this to the page but another editor told me that I blatantly misinterpreted the source. However, a different way of interpreting the source seems impossible to me, as it blatantly refers to the "indie emo" style also being referred to as "Midwest emo", I believe this should be included due to the significant difference in style from the likes of Rites of Spring, Embrace and Jawbreaker to the Midwest bands, which the source supports.Issan Sumisu (talk) 18:54, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, but "Midwest emo" is not the only kind of emo that had grown different from Rites of Spring etc. It is merely a very significant scene of that kind of emo. "Indie emo" can describe any kind of band combining emo and indie rock influences, from SDRE to Dashboard to the contemporary emo revival bands, but none of these are Midwest emo, even if they have a similar or mutually influenced sound compard to Midwest bands. The source clearly states that Midwest emo is only the "most significant" "region" of indie emo. Therefore it does not allow you to treat the two as synonyms, and treating them as such is what I described as a blatant misinterpretation of the source (sorry if this came along as harsh).--MASHAUNIX 20:01, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

I still can't see how the source could be saying that the Midwest is the most significant region, it very clearly says that "This brand of emo was often called "Midwest emo" due to the geographical location of the bands", I am definitely not misinterpreting that; Midwest emo may be a scene rather than a genre but the source blatantly says that only the Midwest bands are referred to as indie emo.Issan Sumisu (talk) 20:08, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

As you cited yourself: "several major regions of 'indie emo' emerged". When the source then says "this brand of emo" it is referring to Midwest emo only (as illustrated by the bands listed at the end of the paragraph!), not "indie emo" in general.--MASHAUNIX 17:42, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

References

Russian Midwest Emo

I have recently discovered a fairly large community of Russian speaking artists who make music that is extremely Midwest emo in sound. Examples are florist (флорист), botanichesky sad, Bird Bone, aesthetics across the color line, telivision screen (телеэкреан), and many more. I find it interesting how large this subgenre is in a country completely separated by a language barrier, but retains many of the themes like existentialism, ennui and the feeling of being stuck in your hometown. I think this could be really interesting to include in the wiki page but may not be that noteworthy as it doesn't seem like the genre is popular in non-russian speaking countries. despite this, there are a large amount of bands that make this kind of music (just check out this spotify playlist [1]https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5vOMZBb0ll4lXSSxErXRdQ?si=34cc42252c41457f]). Let me know what you guys think about the potential inclusion of this! bucas :) (talk) 22:27, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

We're just here to summarize what reliable sources say, so it depends on whether or not they're covering this scene. What we're looking for are reputable music publications, such as those listed under the "Reliable sources" section at WP:ALBUM/SOURCE. I couldn't find anything but you might have better luck. Now if these bands are only getting talked about on social media, forums, and places like Reddit, then we'd have to wait until journalists start writing about them. Woodroar (talk) 23:06, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

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History List

The list of bands to have brought the scene "into prominence in the mid-1990s" feels dubiously factual. Besides listing American Football (whose first release was in 1998, hardly in the mid 1990s), many of the sources don't detail the claimed prominence and instead just namedrop the bands in question or talk about their music, perhaps it would be better suited as a list of noteworthy artists in the genre. 2A00:23C7:AED9:8701:9DC7:D08F:E411:1A23 (talk) 04:17, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

I added "starting" to the sentence, as the source does list American Football but doesn't say all of the bands listed were prominent at the same moment (the mid-90s). If you believe the claims aren't supported by the sources or perhaps the sources are incorrect, please be specific—and cite other reliable sources, if possible. Woodroar (talk) 16:46, 2 December 2023 (UTC)