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Discussion on merging

As the creator, unsurprisingly, I oppose with any type of merging. Especially one that would merge the content of this page to game's article. If anything, material would be move to the characters' respective pages. Hanzo's, in this case, since McCree doesn't have an articles. This page has been called both a "fanfic" and "OTP", when it isn't either. Similarly to the Stucky article, this is about a fandom ship that isn't canon. I'm well aware that Wikipedia isn't for fancruft. But I'm also aware that if something is notable and has various third-party, reliable sources, that are independent of the subject discussing it, it can be eligible for inclusion. Despite only a 4-year existence, multiple journalists and writers from third-party, reliable sources (such as The New York Times), have either discussed in detail or acknowledged the pairing and its popularity (around 22 different sources, depending on how you view Polygon and Heroes Never Die). Moreover, while popularity inherently doesn't mean something is notable enough for Wikipedia, it's quite clear that for two years, McHanzo was huge on Tumblr and also Google; the site with the most traffic according to Alexa Internet. And speaking of Alexa rankings, at the height of the ship's popularity, Tumblr was the 47th most visited website. And McHanzo itself was the 7th most popular overall ship. It really was big. While I can understand that some parts may need to go, the article is written from an neutral point of view and only includes brief in-universe information to familiarize readers with the characters making up the ship and from where they originate. Although I do believe that some parts of the article can also exist somewhere in Hanzo's, I don't see how it can be merged without losing much of the information this article presents. PanagiotisZois (talk) 00:08, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The coverage of it cited here in the article seems to amount to "it exists and it's really popular" and I don't think that's enough to justify the article. By the same token, articles for Reaper76 and Pharmercy should be created, and a host of other ships for many other recurring popular ships on Tumblr. While I acknowledge the breadth of sources in the article, the coverage itself in those articles doesn't feel to actually established anything other than raw popularity—and that doesn't indicate any longstanding notability. I also don't see the merit in merging it anywhere, given it'd amount to noting a popular ship, and that feels like it'd going to gateway itself into noting any significantly popular ship across not only the Overwatch topic, but any other work with a significant online following. ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 04:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

100% in agreement with TenTonParasol. -- ferret (talk) 12:09, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t mind mentioning it somewhere, and I don’t care where it’s merged to, but I’m very strongly against it having a stand-alone article. The sourcing, while reliable, is usually passing mentions in articles more about Tumblr or fandoms. We should handle similarly. Sergecross73 msg me 19:35, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I plan to proceed with this merger shortly, like redirecting to one of the two characters while merging some content to both of them. -- ferret (talk) 17:26, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done following a week wait. -- ferret (talk) 13:41, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]