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Did you know... that Max Whitlock (pictured) is the most successful gymnast on the pommel horse at the Olympics, with two golds and a bronze?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Max Whitlock.

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Reviewer: MovieTalk101178 (talk · contribs) 19:45, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA status over the next week. Thank you for nominating the article. MovieTalk101178 (talk) 19:45, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

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Lead, info box, and early life

Nicely written sections. :)

Career

2010-11:

Whitlock won gold on pommel horse and floor exercise and silver in the all-around at the 2010 Junior European Championships held in Birmingham - Reference 10 seems to be junior and senior WAG?
Whoops. This is fixed now. -Riley1012 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He also won the silver medal on the pommel horse - I don't see the source mentioning anything about Whitlock’s PH silver but it's possible I'm missing something?
You're right, and I've added another source. -Riley1012 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2012: Ok.

2013: Ok.

2014: Ok.

2015: 2015:

After the European Championships, his coach announced Whitlock would take a break from training to recover, during which he also cancelled any public appearances and stopped using social media. – Looking at the ref, I don't see anything about a social media break (although after tweeting that he resumed training, it's clear that he did take break). :)
I couldn't find a source that he was off social media, so I just took that part out. -Riley1012 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2016: Ok.

2017: Ok.

2018:

However, an error in his routine on the pommel horse caused him to finish seventh in the event final. – Going through the source, I don't see anything about Whitlock finishing 7th?

"Whitlock, 25, was seventh at the European Championships in Glasgow." -Riley1012 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2019: Ok.

2021:

The team took fourth place with a score of 255.76 – I don't see any final results listed in the ref?

I've changed the source. -Riley1012 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2022-23:

Whitlock took 18 months off from training – I can see ref 76 says 10 months while ref 77 says 18.

I can't figure out this discrepancy, so I just changed the language to "took over one year off from training", is that fine? -Riley1012 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

During the pommel horse final, Whitlock fell and finished fifth. – I don’t see any mention of Whitlock placing 5th in the reference?

Added source that mentions the 5th place finish -Riley1012 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awards and honours

Whitlock finished seventh in the public vote for the 2014, 2015, and 2016 BBC Sports Personality of the Year awards. - It looks like Whitlock was 8th in 2015.

Fixed -Riley1012 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life

Their first child, a daughter named Willow, was born on 23 February 2019 - It doesn’t look like the actual birthday of Whitlock’s daughter is cited in ref 89 unless I’m missing something? It does say February 2019 though. :)

Changed to February 2019 -Riley1012 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Competitive history

Ok.

References

A few notes on references for future improvement. :)

Ref 5 requires subscription but based on the title and publisher, the source is reputable. I can see an archived version from Aug 4, 2026, allows the reader to view the full article.
Ref 8 requires subscription but based on the title and publisher, the source is reputable. I can see an archived version from 2016 allows the reader to view the full article.
Reference 44 requires subscription but the source is reliable based on the publisher.
Reference 52 requires subscription but the source is reliable based on the publisher.
Reference 62 requires subscription but the source is reliable based on the publisher.
Reference 63 requires subscription but the source is reliable b ased on the publisher.

Overall comments

This article is well written and very close to GA level. :) Thank you for nominating the article Riley1012! There are just some small issues (or questions) related to a couple of references. Let me know how it goes. :) MovieTalk101178 (talk) 01:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review MovieTalk101178! -Riley1012 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for fixing. :) I'll promote the article now. :) MovieTalk101178 (talk) 00:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 07:51, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Whitlock in 2012

... that Max Whitlock (pictured) is the most decorated British gymnast of all time? Source: British Gymnastics
- ALT1: ... that Max Whitlock (pictured) is the most successful gymnast on pommel horse at the Olympics with two golds and a bronze? Source: British Gymnastics, ESPN
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wyll Stanway, Template:Did you know nominations/1984 Iowa Democratic presidential caucuses

Improved to Good Article status by Riley1012 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:36, 11 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Max Whitlock; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

AT1 does not check out, as Miroslav Cerar also has two Olympic golds and three world championships on the pommel horse as well. Schwede 66 14:33, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see that now. I've changed the wording on ALT1. -Riley1012 (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a 2nd QPQ per the backlog rule. I also changed ALT1 after looking into it further based on the comments above. I should've been more specific that Whitlock is the most successful on pommel horse at the Olympics with two gold and a bronze (while Cerar only has two gold). -Riley1012 (talk) 21:13, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wondered why all the citations in the lead, WP:LEADCITE. Probably leave them there until after the DYK since we need citations at end of sentence for the hook. The article became a good article on March 11 and was nominated the samer day so it qualifies for DYK. I do not find evidence of plagiarism and the article is neutral. The two qpqs are completed and the image offered here is correctly licensed, clear at this resolution and free. ALT0 is supported by a citation which says, "most successful British male artistic gymnast" I am not sure why the word "artistic" is used and wonder if ALT0 is missing that specificity. So I confirmed ATL1 as interesting and if a promotor can figure out that I have misunderstood gymnastics and what "artistic" means they can use ALT0. Bruxton (talk) 14:52, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bruxton: Artistic gymnastics refers to the specific discipline of gymnastics, as opposed to rhythmic gymnastics or non-Olympic disciplines like acrobatic gymnastics. There are other sources (1, 2, 3) that say specifically he's the most successful/decorated British gymnast (implying in any discipline). -Riley1012 (talk) 20:56, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Riley1012: Thank you. I thought it was my own ignorance. Bruxton (talk) 21:24, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]