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The article should be moved/renamed MS SNAV Lazio for the following reasons.....

1. The vessels sister ships are already found under their current names
2. Most wikipedia articles about ships refer to the vessels current name
3. She hasn't operated as the Pride of Portsmouth for the last 5 years.
Philphos (talk) 17:04, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - per WP:NC-S - 'An article about a ship that changed name or nationality should be placed at the best-known name, with a redirect from the other name'. Pride of Portsmouth spent 11yrs under this name, she is most known for her services with P&O (Olau Hollandia causes dab problems) and has had an un-notable career thus far as the SNAV Lazio. Pride of Le Havre is so named as SNAV Sardegna to disambiguate from MS Viking Valiant which was also the Pride of Le Havre in the past. JonEastham (talk) 19:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support move/comment - with regards to WP:NC-S, service length is not an indication of notability regards what is or isn't "best-known". If her career as the Pride of Portsmouth has been more notable than that as SNAV Lazio in other respects, there could be compelling reasons to keep the article under the name Pride of Portsmouth. However, if anyone comes looking for this ship today, they are likely to be looking for the SNAV Lazio and not Pride of Portsmouth (the latter would of couse still be retained as a redirect). Additionally, as Philphos points out above, most Wikipedia articles on ships are under the ship's current name. Why this is not written in NC-S I do not know, as I remember there being discussion on this in WP:SHIPS and the concensus being that unless there is compelling reason to do otherwise (and I reiterate that simple service lenght is not a compelling reason), all ship articles should be under the ship's current name. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 14:48, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As one of the Cheif Officers who ran the ship as the Pride of Portsmouth, I think that the page should be moved/renamed as SNAV Lazio. That is the ship's current name and thus the name most people will look for it under. The search function will re-direct searches for the name Pride of Portsmouth. On the issue of best known names, Olau Line fans will look for it as Olau Britannia and SNAV fans will look for it as the Lazio which will be the best known names to them. Also there was another ship called the Pride of Portsmouth some years before this one was even built.

Support move I don’t see why this is even up for debate. The other sisters are by their current names and nothing particularly more notable happened to this ferry under the name Pride of Portsmouth, than the other ferries under their previous names. Plus it doesn’t take away from its time as PoP, just because the name is not what some may have known her as in the past.Mbruce (talk) 11:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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