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Celebrity Solstice

Just curious as to why you view the original image to be better? Personally, I generally prefer daylight photos as they are easier to view external details of the ship. In this case, both photos have issues ... the night photo is harder to see exterior details; while the daylight photo was missing the bow (it's like chopping off part of a person's head in a photo). If it was due to the bow missing in the photo, I can understand your reasoning. To me, neither are optimal photos to illustrate the ship and I can accept either one ... I was just curious as to your reasoning. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 00:09, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I was indeed referring to lack of the bow in the image added. However, there appear to be two pics in the German Wikipedia article on the ship that are taken during the daytime and are not cropped. Perhaps one (or both) of these could be added to the English article as well? — Kjet (talk · contribs) 00:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for MS Rhapsody

On January 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article MS Rhapsody, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Dravecky (talk) 23:21, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Cunard Line

Thank you for your help on the Cunard article

(GRUBBXDN (talk) 22:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC))

No problem, glad to have been of assistance. And thank you for improving the article, it was long in need of expansion. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 16:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

MV Aurora

Is there anywhere on the MV Aurora (2000) page where I can place my photograph? I can understand why it was removed from the infobox but I do not know why you removed the small thumbnail that I put at the bottom of the page. Thanks - Airportjam

There's already a link at the bottom of the article to commons:Category:MV Aurora, where several images of the ship exist - including your image. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Barek. Without intending to sound like an asshat I'd like to add that the image in question didn't add any relevant new content to the article—contributing here shouldn't be about getting your pictured displayed in the articles but using the best possible pictures to illustrate the subject. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 22:42, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Enkkuwiki vs. finskiwiki

Heh, ihan sama juttu. Olen administraattori täällä, mutta minulla ei ole finskipuolella edes käyttäjätunnusta. Syynä on oikeastaan alunperin se, että tutustuin Wikipediaan nimenomaan enkkupuolen kautta, ja huomasin vasta tunnuksen hankittuani, että sehän on suomeksikin. Yksi syy siihen, että viihdyn edelleenkin paremmin täällä, on se mitä itsekin sanoit, että täällä on paljon enemmän artikkeleita (melkein 14 kertaa niin paljon) ja enemmän käyttäjiä lukemassa niitä. Minusta on hauska valistaa suurta maailmaa yksityiskohtaisella tiedolla Suomesta. Toinen, pienempi syy on se että olen kokenut suomenkielisen Wikipedian paljon byrokraattisemmaksi ja tiukkapipoisemmaksi paikaksi kuin tämän englanninkielisen. JIP | Talk 20:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Okei, pitänee pysyä poissa finskiwikistä, kun tääkin paikaa vaikuttaa turhan tiukkikselta hyvinkin usein... — Kjet (talk · contribs) 21:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

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New Disney Cruise Line ships

Hey there, thanks for your assistance on the articles for the newly-named Disney Dream and Disney Fantasy and for the Disney Cruise Line in general. I hope you will be available to help us as the construction of the ships moves forward and we update the articles. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 16:57, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem, it was my pleasure. I'll probably keep an eye out for new info related to these ships. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 17:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Julia ferry article

This discussion has been moved to Talk:MS Julia#12 March 2009 auction. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 16:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Tonnage measures

Hello Kjet. You may be interested in this discussion: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ships#Proposal_to_deprecate_.22Tons_Burthen.22_in_infobox_and_hunt_down_metric_convertions_of_Tonnage Among other matters, it touches on the proper locus within an infobox of "tonnage" measures such as DWT. Regards, Kablammo (talk) 13:38, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I did in fact notice the discussion, but didn't really think I'd have much to give to it. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 16:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Brillant and Rimon

Please see the value of Edmond Wilhelm Brillant and links to Hebrew Wiki there you may see photos of SS Shalom construction, and invitations of Brillant to the Flotation coctails as well as many docs from his time in the Israeli NAVY Royal Navy and Hagana.

I will add English translation to those photos so you can use them in the English value of Steam Ship Shalom.

Please see the fisrt left picture in Hebrew wiki, the old lady there is the wife of David Ben Gurion the first prime minister of Israel

Edmond Wilhelm Brillant is my late father

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Melody

Thanks for adding this to Piracy in Somalia. Would you care to comment on a motion to delete the article Tanit (yacht) ? Pustelnik (talk) 18:04, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Citations and TV shows - MS Estonia

Hi! I came across your removal of the television show program citations that I put in the MS Estonia article http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MS_Estonia&diff=259330296&oldid=259243779

You said: "Replaced unverifiable references provided by WhisperToMe with cn tags. Please provide full citations details using citation templates." - By providing the name of the episode and the name of the television show I have provided verifiable references. Please do not remove television show references if they have the episode and the name of the TV show. If there are other details needed, please keep the citations in the article and contact the person who put them in the article to provide more. State what is needed.

I am a busy man and I edit many articles across Wikipedia. It took me awhile to discover this, but when I did I became very disappointed. WhisperToMe (talk) 11:07, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

• I checked it out further and then I realized the Wikipedia article about the series did not exist at the time, so you may not have realized that it was referring to a television series. I probably should have included a tag that described it as a documentary TV series. Anyway, I created the article about Surviving Disaster, which is the documentary series referred to. WhisperToMe (talk) 11:39, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Your latter surmise is indded correct. When you originally added the refs, it only read "The Sinking of the Estonia." Surviving Disaster, with no links, no info on what Surviving Disaster is, and no info on how one could verify the reference. Therefore I considered tbe reference as being completely unverifiable and removed them (although looking back, I possibly should have tagged them with tags instead of simply replacing them with ). Looking at the article now, the new citations are much clearer. It might perhaps however be a good idea to include a link to the PDF file used on Surviving Disaster in the Estonia ref, possibly with a text of "programme information" or something like that, making it easier for users wishing to verify the info to find how to do that. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 14:46, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Chris Cunard's page

The thing about the Chris Cunard page is that it is a self-published source, and the source does not fit any circumstances in which a self-published source would normally be used. Wikipedia:RS#Self-published_sources explains "Self-published sources are largely not acceptable, though may be used only in limited circumstances, with caution, when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications." - From my understanding the author of Chris's Cunard page has not done this. Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published_sources_.28online_and_paper.29 explains when a self-published source is acceptable. Chris's Cunard page does not fit any of these circumstances. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Launch date disambiguation

Kjet -- I'm contacting you because I recall following your lead in 2008. You may recall a discussion about the Canadian Pacific Steamships fleet in May 2008 in which you argued persuasively that the fleet of ships should be distinguished using the date of the maiden voyage. I now learn somewhat belatedly that launch date is preferred at Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(ships)#Disambiguating_ships_with_the_same_name. If necessary, I will make the appropriate changes throughout the range of articles which do not use the launch date for disambiguation; but before I do, I thought it made sense to invite comment from you? I would expect that this may affect more ships than those in the CP fleet?

Initially, I believed that the launch date was the intuitive choice; but I was persuaded that a consensus favoured a focus on the beginnings of service record. I do appreciate that the taxonomy of warships focuses on the vessel as an physical object with a hull which also happed to have a specific military use. I inferred from this discussion that the taxonomy of non-warships focused instead on function and the service history of the ship. See Taxonomy and Military taxonomy#Descriptive paradigm. Consensus does change; but having moved moved articles from launch date to another in 2008, I'm understandably reluctant to invest the time involved in restoring launch date disambiguation in 2009.

I'm delaying further action until you have a chance to comment. --Tenmei (talk) 16:12, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I apologise for not commenting before, my interest in all things Wikipedia have waned quite notably during the past weeks. After our discussion on CP Ships this issue was raised at WP:SHIPS where I tried to campaign for the usage of the service entry date rather than the launch date. This did not at the time gain any popularity (I would say this is mainly because WP:SHIPS members are interested in warships and as such the WP:SHIPS guideline system has been built around established conventions on warships—which, as you say, differ from the conventions on civilian vessels). My opinion on this matter remains unchanged, I continue to think that service entry dates should be used (at least for non-military vessels); however I have no energy or interest in attempting to change the current system. I appriciate your contacting me on this. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 09:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Kjet -- It appears that this small tidbit of data tends to substantiate the value and relevance of your opinion:

The Empress of Britain (1956) was launched June 22, 1955. The ship's completion date or the date it went into service was March 1956. The Miramar Ship Index which is sponsored by the New Zealand Ship & Marine Society in Wellington, New Zealand has selected the service date as an identifier for this ship in all its various incarnations -- see here.

I do not know why this date was selected rather than the launch date -- but this would seem to be noteworthy and perhaps persuasive? --Tenmei (talk) 17:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I had a quick look through various books on ships I have (string from the 1966-published Northern Star to Southern Cross) and none of them use the launch date to indentify different ships with the same name. Some use running numbering, but most use the service entry year. In most cases the launch date is not even mentioned, whereas the service entry date usually is. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 18:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Helsinki_tram_map.png

7A and 7B appear to be the wrong way around on the map above, would you fix it? :) -KirvesAxe (talk) 21:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Heavens, you're right. An idiotic mistake on my part. I'll fix it when I have the time, thank you for bringing this to my attention. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 22:40, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Corrected. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 11:28, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

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Oy Stadin Ratikat Ab

Hi Kjet.

As a response to your edit summary "no such thing as Stadin Ratikat Ltd exists" in Helsinki Tram article. Oy Stadin Ratikat Ab is the Finnish/Swedish name of the company. Stadin Ratikat themselves introduce the company as a private company limited by shares. It is true that Osakeyhtiö is a Finnish equivalent of a limited company, but since this is English Wikipedia, referring the company simply as a Ltd instead of a Oy might improve readability for non-Finnish readers.

See: http://www.stadinratikat.fi/english/yhteystiedot.html

--Siipikarja ♫ 14:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Fair point. I made the edit as Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies) seems to suggest the original-language abbreviations should be used for companies not based in English-speaking countries. However, seeing that Stadin Ratikat does refer to itself in English as Stadin Ratikat Ltd I have no problem with changing it back (though in my opinion the most logical course would be to do away with the legal status suffix completely). I admit I might have been a bit hasty in my edit; I was slightly annoyed with the removal of the red link to Stadin Ratikat, as I've been considering making an article on them. But that's really besides the point and your call in removing it was certainly correct as you had no way of knowing about my possible intentions. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 14:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Redirects

Hi I just want to thank you for creating those redirects to the article MS Royal Iris and adding links to that article on several disambiguation pages. I really do appreciate it. 1Matt20 (talk) 00:44, 3 August 2010

No problem, it wasn't a big job. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 22:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

MS Kristina Regina to MS Bore

I was wondering if it would be appropriate that the page MS Kristina Regina be moved to MS Bore, since it seems this what her name has been changed to in her new role. Decided to consult you as you seem to have had a prominent place in editing and improving the article in question for over three years. 1Matt20 (talk) 20:44, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

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Review of some lines on this page is suggested....

Nimrainayat6290 (talk) 12:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

The used ships were soon found to be too small and during the 1950s seven new freighters were delivered to various owned to be operated by Finnlines.

Hi Dear Kjet, above lines in section 1947-1977(first section in history) dont make clear sense. I failed to investigate about the user who added these lines while I found your edits on this page in majority. A review of above mentioned lines is suggested as I think that there is something missing after "various" and before "owned". Thanks

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That's probably my edit, though it's such a long time that I cannot be certain. I'd suspect what it attempts to say is "seven new freighters were delivered to various different owners for Finnlines operations" or somesuch. — Kjet (talk · contribs) 22:52, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

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Orphaned non-free image File:Viking ADCC 2.jpg

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Orphaned non-free image File:Stockholm 1941.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Stockholm 1941.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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