Talk:Lord Viren

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
August 2, 2020	Peer review	Not reviewed
September 17, 2020	Peer review	Reviewed
June 19, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed

Current status: Good article

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The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

https://thegeekiary.com/sdcc-2022-the-dragon-prince-season-4-and-beyond-an-interview-with-justin-richmond-and-aaron-ehasz/109777

On 26 May 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Viren to Lord Viren. The result of the discussion was moved.

GA?

Should this article be nominated for GA status? I feel that this article is ready for GAN. DarkFallenAngel (talk) 17:03, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Preferably not yet. I'd like at least a copyedit, if nothing else, to happen first. PanagiotisZois (talk) 08:33, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, oops, I didn't read the peer review before I took the copy edit request because I have watched the show. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 23:20, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@PanagiotisZois: I did a little peer review here :) — Melofors T C 01:58, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Viren/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 14:32, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 14:32, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Basic stuff and comments

Infobox and lead

Don't use WP:SMALLFONT in the infobox.
- Done.
Add alt text to the character's image.
- @Some Dude From North Carolina: Done. I haven't done alt text in a long time, so I hope the description I wrote is good enough. Not sure if I should also mention his race / skin colour. --PanagiotisZois (talk) 15:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Use "plainlist" instead of <br>
- Done
Feel free to remove unused parameters.
- Done
The lead is well-written; no issues there.

Other stuff

Add a serial comma after "master of dark magic".
- Done.
Remove the comma after "recognizes the mirror".
- Done.
Remove the comma after "exposes his treachery".
- Done.
"when told is was" - typo?
- My mistake. The sentence is saying that when the friend in question was "told he [Viren] was" practical, he agreed for his name to be used.
"Remove the comma after "retained its layers".
- Done.
Slashfilm → /Film
- Done.
Sources are archived.

Progress

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Question, why does this page exist?

I still don’t understand how character pages for shows work how is it this guy has a full Wikipedia page while characters like Callum, Reila, Ezran, and Zim don’t. I’m still understanding how this works. 0Detail-Attention215 (talk) 16:03, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, a large part of it has to do with notability. Now, as to why Viren has an article while Callum, Ezran, and Zym don't (Rayla actually does), the answer is quite simple. Because I wanted to create his article, but wasn't all that interested in the others. It's not rare for a character who's more of a supporting character to have their own article, while the main characters don't. Again, this circles back to notability. As you can see, Viren's article isn't just a biography, detailing his character from an in-universe perspective. There's an entire section dedicated to how the character was created, cast, and further developed, as well as a section detailing the response to Viren's character (one which is almost entirely positive, I might add). --PanagiotisZois (talk) 11:12, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Season 4 sources

PanagiotisZois (talk) 22:20, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 May 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 01:10, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Viren → Lord Viren
Viren (disambiguation) → Viren

– WP:NOPT. Jax 0677 (talk) 07:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination and also support pairing it with Viren (disambiguation) → Viren. It may be noted that when this page was moved from Draft:Viren on July 10, 2020, its main title header carried a parenthetical qualifier — Viren (The Dragon Prince). Since eleven bulleted entries are listed upon the Viren (disambiguation) page, there is no indication that this supporting character has such overwhelming renown within the English-speaking world that it overwhelms the combined notability of the ten remaining entries. The matter was discussed above at Talk:Viren#Question, why does this page exist? —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:20, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...Probably also worth noting that the disambiguation page was created only a day or two ago. Steel1943 (talk) 23:10, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, this had been a redirect to Lasse Virén prior to the character article being moved over it as an undiscussed technical move in 2020. Lasse get more page views than any of the others, though not enough to qualify as primary topic. older ≠ wiser 11:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, looks like this might have been a case for WP:RM/TR. --Joy (talk) 09:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: "Lord Viren" is the common name used to refer to the character both inside and outside of the show. The article being titled "Viren" is akin to King Arthur's article being titled "Arthur". AmericanBaath (talk) 15:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.