Talk:Live at Third Man Records (Billie Eilish album)

Live at Third Man Records (Billie Eilish album) was a Music good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Live at Third Man Records (Billie Eilish album)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 13:58, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Short album article, though I will give it proper consideration nevertheless --K. Peake 13:58, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

Add the venue parameter to infobox since this was a live recording
"is a vinyl-exclusive live album by" → "is the debut live album by"
The release sentence should be swapped with the recording one in the order
"It was recorded at an acoustic live show with her brother" → "The album was recorded during an acoustic live show with Eilish's brother" with the target
Remove wikilink on Third Man Records
"It was officially released as Eilish's first live album on" → "It was released by Third Man Records on"
"The record received a major drop on" → "Live at Third Man Records experienced a major release on"
"debuting at number 55 on the" → "debuting at number 55 on the US"
"selling 13 thousand copies in that week." → "selling 13,000 copies during that week."
Sure you can't add another sentence to the second para since it is too short?

Background and recording

"along with her brother Finneas O'Connell." → "alongside her brother Finneas O'Connell, known under his stage name of Finneas."
"She performed in front" → "For the show, she performed in front"
"several tracks off her EP" → "several tracks from her debut EP"
Add release year of Don't Smile at Me in brackets
"and her album When We Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?." → "and her debut studio album When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go? (2019)"
"The live album is a recording" → "Live at Third Man Records is a recording"
"then transitions into" → "then transitioned into"
"the shows "acoustic highlights"." → "the show's "acoustic highlights.""
"Eilish sings" → "Eilish then performed"
"the first chorus lyrics." → "the first chorus' lyrics." with the target
"Eilish continues the performance with" → "She continued the show with performances of"
"concludes the performance with" → "concluding by performing"
"Pointing to the live video feed of the recording process," → "In particular, she pointed to the live video feed of the recording process,"
"also thanked Jack White" → "also thanked White"
"Eilish mentioned," → "She further mentioned,"

Release and packaging

"The album was released independently under Third Man Records on" → "Live at Third Man Records was released independently by Third Man Records"
"2019 with limited release." → "2019, with a limited release."
"through two Third Man stores, each in Detroit and Nashville." → "at two Third Man stores, which were in Detroit and Nashville, respectively."
"On August 29, 2020, during" → "On August 29, 2020, coinciding"
"the record was made available" → "the album was made available"
"of the record appear on blue opaque vinyl" → "of Live at Third Man Records appear on blue opaque vinyl" with the target
"four repeated "Billie Eilish"'s in" → "four repeated displays of "Billie Eilish" in"
"of the record feature" → "of the album contain"
"applied by" → "that was applied by"

Reception

"described the album" → "described Live at Third Man Records as what"
"[performance]", and continues saying" → "[performance]," and continued by saying"
"He concludes with saying" → "He concluded by admitting that"
"described it as a" → "described the album as a"
"said it was" → "said it is a"
"The record received a" → "Live at Third Man Records received a"
Remove wikilink on Record Store Day
"sold 13 thousand copies in the sales week ending September 3." → "sold 13,000 copies in the US for the sales week ending September 3, 2020."
"at number 55 on the" → "at number 55 on the US"
"The record was the" → "The album was the"
"which was also the biggest" → "which itself was the biggest"

Track listing

A source is required to verify this is the track listing, plus can you find one to add the lengths of each live performance possibly?

Charts

Good

References

Copyvio score is quite poor at 45.7%; this can be fixed by trimming down quoting though
Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
Ref 6 should cite the last name solely in that parameter and the first followed by middle in the first name one
Cite Rough Trade as publisher instead for ref 10 and target to Rough Trade Records, plus add the original URL alongside the archive
WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 11
Eric Alper should only be wikilinked on the author of ref 12 per WP:OVERLINK
Cite YouTube as the publisher instead for ref 13 with the wikilink
WP:OVERLINK of Rolling Stone on ref 14

Final comments and verdict

On hold but the track listing needs to be sourced more than anything else, or else I am not sure if this may be able to become a GA, sadly. Good luck though, I am glad to have been part of your ever-growing experience! --K. Peake 20:36, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake, I cannot find a source anywhere where it shows the length. Not even the vinyl shows the lengths. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 01:21, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Ultimate Boss You need a source that verifies that being the track listing, even if the lengths are not provided. --K. Peake 07:22, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake, you can go ahead and fail the GA nomination. I am having some issues right now with some editors and I think they might complain about this becoming GA. Thanks a lot for all the reviews you have done for me. You are truly the best editor on this website. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Ultimate Boss Are you sure about the fail since the track listing has now been proven it is able to be sourced? --K. Peake 07:44, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake, yes I am sure. Bilorv is going to whine about this becoming GA. I just recommend you fail it so we don't have problem with them. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 20:58, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is not an accurate characterisation of my position—see User talk:Bilorv#Heads up for more information. — Bilorv (talk) 22:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@The Ultimate Boss: I am not going to take sides between you and Bilorv because I do not know about the issues, though I will ✗ Fail this article per user request to be safe. --K. Peake 01:07, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]