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John Hogan Jenkins

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Is there any basis for the wikilink from "1903: John Jenkins" to John Hogan Jenkins? John Jenkins is an extremely common name in Cardiff. John Hogan Jenkins is a likely candidate as he was a Welsh politician of the period, but a source would be useful. Verbcatcher (talk) 01:48, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Men Who Made Labour, seems to confirm it. Sionk (talk) 12:03, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Sionk: Thanks, I have added a citation. This source says that his was "the last mayoralty before Cardiff Town became Cardiff City". You have used this in John Jenkins (British politician), but it appears to conflict with this list which gives "1904: Robert Hughes". The cited book may be intended to mean "the last completed mayoralty", because Cardiff became a city during the following mayoralty. I think the source is ambiguous and I will remove the claim from the John Jenkins article. Verbcatcher (talk) 19:20, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Page title

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I can't see how "List of Mayors of Cardiff" is correct. Mayor is normally not capitalised unless it is at the start of a sentence. Sionk (talk) 21:14, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See MOS:JOBTITLES.
  • When the correct formal title is treated as a proper name (e.g., King of France; it is correct to write Louis XVI was King of France but Louis XVI was the French king)
"Mayor of Cardiff" is a formal title and should be captialised, as with "Elizabeth was Queen of England" or "Obama was President of the United States". However if the name of a role is used in isolation from the formal title it should not be capitalised, as in "the mayor opened the school" or "the queen opened parliament".
This capitalisation is used in the titles of most of the articles in Category:Lists of mayors of places in England. Verbcatcher (talk) 23:04, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Notability

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I have just received 2 polite refusals of my submission on Sir Hugh Ferguson Jones which has been relegated to draft status. One of the reasons was notability. Is it felt that Lord Mayors of Cardiff have ipso facto achieved notability? I suspect not, but that certain mid-twentieth century Lord Mayors did, e.g. Sir Lincoln Hallinan, Helena Evans and the subject of my submission. A discussion might be useful. 4November2019 Clive sweeting (talk) 14:09, 4 November 2019 (UTC)Clive sweeting[reply]

PS Lord Povosts of Edinburgh and of Glasgow have qualified for inclusion in Wkipedia almost without exception over three centuries and almost all recent Belfast Lord Mayors. CBS

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