Talk:List of lucky symbols

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Have added this page which a mirror of Lucky Symbols as per [[1]]s' edit, think the article should be a stand alone but look forward to other users views, either or must be removed.--Jemesouviens32 (talk) 08:47, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Continued disruption of Wikipedia by user Jemesouviens32

This user has an established history of attempting to fabricate the existence of "eskimo buddhism". A page he created was deleted by consensus. He was found guilty of sockpuppetry, and banned for a week from editing. He then recreated the page, which was then deleted again. All of this was part of an effort on his/her part (in cahoots with a Bridget somebody or other) to place countless non-RS blogsits, Twitter and other unvisited junk material on the web, for the purpose of attempting to get this nonsense into Wikipedia. The evident ultimate purpose is profit by the sale of trinkets.

Now, he created the "lucky symbols" page, for the purpose of listing junk commercial products, trinkets marketed through a blog, apparently made by Bridget. Indeed, the two may be the same person.

A previous editor deleted this ridiculous material, the user then reinstated it. I have deleted it again, and he, again, has reinstated it.

This nonsense really does have to stop, as it wastes people's time. Wikipedia is not a place to fabricate religious groups, or market "lucky symbol" trinkets which are lucky to nobody apart from the person trying to sell them.

If this continues, I will seek help from admins, with a view to a permanent block on this disruptive user. Bluehotel (talk) 12:37, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bluehotel is an emotional non contributor to Wikipedia, she/he has a history of zero article creation and is not only unremarkable in editing but also prolific in intervention which can be reviewed here [[2]] Until this User contributes positively to Wikipedia it is proposed he she/he refrains from disruptive behavior unless reviewed by her/his peers.

The lucky symbols page has several references to commercially promoted items as luck is used not only commercially but also by religious entities to help promote their beliefs. If one was to delete all commercially relevant content in Wikipedia it would make a very poor read indeed. --Jemesouviens32 (talk) 14:27, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of an International Lucky Symbols section

Only a few of the symbols listed are really 'international', and I feel that most of the symbols could be better categorised under their original/appropriate cultural origin, which, for most of those listed as 'international' is 'Western' or 'United States'. I'd like to nominate this subsection as in need of review, and, of course, as with the rest of this page, inline references.

Alternatively, it could list international commanalities in lucky symbols, such as the use of images of religious deities/saints, symbols of wealth, lucky words or phrases, etc, from an academic viewpoint.

Jeong Hwa-Yong (talk) 02:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great idea, go ahead with your edits, as per Wiki philosophy--Jemesouviens32 (talk) 08:51, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Lucky charm into List of lucky symbols

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Oppose. Lucky charm is a DAB page which includes nine full title matches which have nothing to do with lucky symbols. Narky Blert (talk) 11:30, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This may be a good idea. Just grab the content about lucky charms and put them here, and make that dab page a true dab page. As it stands now, it's part article and part dab page. (This is my last edit of the day and I am a bit spaced. Am I talking sense?) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:49, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Narky Blert (talk) 21:44, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I agree with Anna Frodesiak's assessment. Merge the relevant material from the dab page into this one, and leave the dab page to deal with the variants. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:30, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved
– I went ahead with the merge
Coastside (talk) 08:37, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge of Good luck charm into List of lucky symbols

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The good luck charm article is a short introduction followed by a list of four example objects. The list of symbols is a shorter intro followed by a list of about thirty (some objects, some numbers, some living animals). One article could do both. Lord Belbury (talk) 11:44, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support Merge - The Good luck charm article as it currently stands seems redundant with Four-leaf clover that is already listed at List of lucky symbols. Some of the article's general introduction to charms could possibly be part of the list article's introduction. Assuming Good luck charm itself was expanded, it would become a redundant list article to List of lucky symbols. I'm not sure if List of lucky symbols is the best name for such an article but this can be addressed separately. —Paleo Neonate – 19:07, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: the topic of charms is independently notable of the images conveyed on them, and the images are notable in context others than those related to charms. So, for clarity, the topics are sufficiently distinct that merging would create more problems than it solves. Klbrain (talk) 09:14, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Merge: The Good luck charm article is a content fork containing inaccurate and trivial information. 75.101.104.17 (talk) 09:47, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As consensus is against me,

Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 10:51, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:UNDUE Jew with a coin?

Regarding the removal of an existing entry, how is it WP:UNDUE to include a particular (possibly obscure) Polish lucky symbol of Jew with a coin on this list? It would be undue to mention it in a short sentence of three example lucky charms alongside two major ones, but this is a list article - aren't the inclusion criteria just "is considered a lucky symbol" and "is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article"? --Lord Belbury (talk) 19:22, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Amanita Muscaria as Lucky Symbol

I don't feel confident enough in my research abilities to amend the page properly, but the entry for Amantia Muscaria may be inaccurate. Specifically, the luck-aspect is involved via the idea of a 'Fairy ring'. However, there isn't any citation in the fairy ring article itself for the claim that they are symbol of good luck, just an unsourced claim. I agree with this claim, and I definitely believe it is more apt for this page than Amantia Muscaria specifically, but I do not have any good sources for this information, other than broadly European pagan origins. If there is a separate reason for Amantia Muscaria's inclusion however, please clarify. Wabuilderman (talk) 22:36, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]