Talk:List of New York state forests

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Other publicly managed forests in NY state

In addition to forests managed by NYS DEC, there are a number of other publicly managed forests in NY state, including those managed by the State University of New York College of Environmental Science and Forestry, Cornell University, various counties, cities and other administrative units. May be useful to cross-reference some of these other publicly managed forests here, as well. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:56, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not a bad idea; see below. Antepenultimate (talk) 22:30, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with New York State Forests?

Hi, It may be wise to merge this list into the New York State Forests article. Thoughts? Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 11:04, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DASonnenfeld, this is something I've considered, and I've never really come to a firm conclusion. I was also considering whether to do the same with the WMA list I created last night.

Arguments for a merger include the fact that, as is, the non-list portion is completely redundant with the information contained at the current New York State Forests article and so the list could just be appended without losing much.

However, I believe the NYSF article has a lot of room for expansion, particularly in terms of policy, procedures and history. (Every UMP has a lovely "history of state forests" section that would be great to summarize, except this is a situation where a primary source should probably be avoided due to inherent bias.) If it were expanded, then the list may seem out-of-place or make the article seem bloated. Another possible reason to keep them separate is actually mentioned by you, above; this article could list (or summarize) non-state managed forests as well (do you know of a good summary source for these, perhaps?) However, merger is definitely a possibility with the articles as they stand now. Antepenultimate (talk) 22:30, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Antepenultimate, Many thanks for your continuing contributions! I guess perhaps it may depend on where the respective articles may go from here. Based on current content, it might be helpful to merge the present article into New York State Forests. I would suggest keeping the WMA list separate. Hope your summer is going well! Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:21, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that, as they stand now, the articles should probably be merged, and these sorts of decisions should be made based on current status rather than vague future hopes (though I do hope to expand that article one day... it's just another thing on a long list of things I never seem to have time for, especially this time of year!) I'm going to hold off for maybe two weeks, though, and do a quick 'merge proposal', in case visitors to either page (who don't watchlist them) have an opinion (unlikely, but there's no rush). Thanks - Antepenultimate (talk) 00:08, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Agreed. Thank you, Antepenultimate. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:28, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Based on the current status of the two articles. Cheers, Easchiff (talk) 13:52, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]