Talk:List of English-language metaphors

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Pingas

The most recent page edit (diff) replaced a square-rigger with a square-pingas. Is it trolling or does the word exist and acutually means anything? TvojaStara (talk) 17:25, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probably trolling, I will revert.· · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 03:36, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lists

Full disclosure, I am the author of 1001 Metaphors by Crowdsourcing http://www.niquette.com/books/sophmag/1001metaphors.html -- a non-commercial website. As of October 2015, the collection has grown to 3,405 entries and is available pro-bono for students and teachers, authors and essayists worldwide. Paul Niquette (talk) 12:07, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Only a problem if the website is used as a reference. It would not be considered a reliable source. · · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 03:50, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion criteria and ordering

The page does not appear to have any measurable inclusion criteria, and the listings have no obvious order within the sections.

I suggest:

alphabetical order within sections,
either a wikilink to an article or article section in which the metaphor is explained, possibly annotated in the list, or
a local listing, with explanation, and a reliable source cited
no redlinks without a reference
the lead should mention the inclusion criteria

· · · Peter Southwood ^(talk): 03:50, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss

"brought up all standing"

I take this phrase to mean (of a sailing vessel) "brought up" - into the wind: that is, turned to bring her head to lie directly into the wind - "all standing" - that is, with sails still all set. The effect on a square rig will be to put the sails aback, and the vessel will lose way abruptly; on a fore-and-aft rig, sails will go aback or simply flap ineffectively, depending on how they are sheeted, and way will typically be lost more gradually. Either way, it's an abrupt maneuver; it would normally only be executed in emergency, because the vessel will quickly lose steerage way, and as she begins to make sternway the sails will need fairly urgent and unusual handling to get her back under command.

Anyone know of any sources to support this understanding of the phrase?

87.74.135.103 (talk) 08:19, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]